TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[Mommy's Angel]

Popping in again. You guys keep getting me excited over and over again!!

CarolB, thank you for your kind comments but you have NO IDEA how excited I am that you haven't given up yourself. I know the heartache that comes with a loss, but right now I'm finding out what it's like to HOPE again. I have NO DOUBT you'll reach a pregnancy again. We'll just continue to pray the little bean implants and implants GOOD! I'm excited to hear about your future cycle and can't wait to hear your pregnant again and carry to term holding your little bundle of joy. We MUST keep focused to the joy we'll have and KNOW there IS hope through all the struggles and sadness. It's good to see you back my dear friend!

Skye, 21 EGGS???(((FAINT))) Holy Cats that's alot!! I've heard of a woman having 18 but not heard of the 21 eggs. I'm praying this one is a sticky bean and that you finally get your bfp and carry to term a beautiful baby or babies!! I'll be watching you be assured!

Never, so sorry you didn't get your bfp this round. As I keep saying...it's a test of patience but I have no doubt you'll make it! All these struggles are worth it once you achieve that bfp.

Titi, we've been wondering where the heck you were! Glad your okay darlin!

 

[Dwrgi]

CaroleB thank you for your kind words and encouragement, I'm so happy you are trying again. I know it is a big step for you after what happened last year. I really hope this would be your month. Please try to look at this cycle as fresh and not be disheartened with the previous one so much. I know it is harder than it is said but all first fertility treatments is like a learning curb. IVF is a lot more intense than IUI but all the same, being successful in the first one is not so easy. The women I cycled here had 2-3 attempts before success. I'm also glad that you have found a trustworthy clinic where you are. Otherwise it is much more stressful for you. It saves you from flying while pregnant too. Good luck hon.

I went to the clinic this morning and had a scan. My ovaries are pretty swollen with fluid due to having 21 eggs. I had told you that I was recomended to drink 2,5 litres of water during stimms which increased towards the end of stimms and egg collection. This helps washing all the excess hormones to build up but also washes off the fluid that ovaries retain. I was also told to take 1 liter of milk everyday. I'm lactose intolerant and I stopped drinking after my egg collection. I tried to consume equivelant amount protein. However these last couple of days I was too lazy to fix myself any decent protein rich food. Apparently I still needed the protein because the fluid that got retained in the ovaries had protein, salt and minerals in it. So my body was losing that. he Gatorade helped with retaining the minerals. Just like dehydration powder sachets we take when we get severe diarrhea or vomiting. That's why I was more and more swollen and in pain. I now have a bottle of Gatorade in hand (Could be any dehydration water) and had a big salty steak lunch. I feel much much better.

The good news is the dr said "This is probably a sign of pregnancy" ))) Yaaaaaaaay

"The bad news is it might get worst before it gets better." Next time I have such a bad bloating as yesterday I will have to go to A&E where they can give me a dehydration serum and maybe a stronger dose of blood thinner depending on my blood count. The treatment wouldn't harm the pregnancy (if I am) which I feared the most.

I wanted to share this cause there is a few woman on this thread who is going to start IVF soon so in case if anyone has a similar issue they would know about it.

IUI also has a hyperstimmulation scare so the logic is the same. Lot's of water and proteins.

Lava have you started already? Good luck hon, thank you for the encouragement. Hope I wouldn't disappoint you all

Thank you Missy, hope you are letting all that steam of work this weekend and relaxing
xxx

OMG! OMG! That is wonderful-I really, really really hope that the docs are right!!!! I am so excited for you and so keeping all my fingers crossed! Oh gosh, you soooooooooo deserve this good news. I can't wait to know your news when you test-I bet you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take it easy and keeping drinking that gatorade!!

Lots and lots of love and lots and lots of good luck!!!

 

[twinkle1975]

Thanks for being so lovely ladies - I'm still lurking atm - I don't feel tough enough to fully jump back on the ttc wagon yet.

 

[skye2010]

Hahhahaha, MA listen to this. One of the women who was trying to get pregnant had bad eggs so her cousin who was a 21 year old university student offered to donate her eggs. Which is incredibly nice of her but the poor girl didn't know what she was in for. She thought that it would be a few appointments and injections and than that would be that. God bless young herself, her ovaries produced 43 eggs Towards the end of the treatment the poor thing was extremely overstimmulated. She almost had a mini break down in the clinic while waiting cause she had exams coming up right after the egg collection.

After 43 eggs collected I bet she felt like she just fell over the train tracks and it went over her.

 

[twinkle1975]

Hahhahaha, MA listen to this. One of the women who was trying to get pregnant had bad eggs so her cousin who was a 21 year old university student offered to donate her eggs. Which is incredibly nice of her but the poor girl didn't know what she was in for. She thought that it would be a few appointments and injections and than that would be that. God bless young herself, her ovaries produced 43 eggs Towards the end of the treatment the poor thing was extremely overstimmulated. She almost had a mini break down in the clinic while waiting cause she had exams coming up right after the egg collection.

After 43 eggs collected I bet she felt like she just fell over the train tracks and it went over her.

ouch!!!

 

[FutureMommie]

Hello Ladies- I will pop in probably tomorrow and catch up with everyone.

Skye- so glad the gatorade helped, it always helps me and I dring tons of it. I'm rooting for you and just waiting for you to post that bfp on Wednesday!!!!

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Hahhahaha, MA listen to this. One of the women who was trying to get pregnant had bad eggs so her cousin who was a 21 year old university student offered to donate her eggs. Which is incredibly nice of her but the poor girl didn't know what she was in for. She thought that it would be a few appointments and injections and than that would be that. God bless young herself, her ovaries produced 43 eggs Towards the end of the treatment the poor thing was extremely overstimmulated. She almost had a mini break down in the clinic while waiting cause she had exams coming up right after the egg collection.

After 43 eggs collected I bet she felt like she just fell over the train tracks and it went over her.

WOWEE! I was hyperstimmed with a couple follies at 7 a piece on top of several others but I couldn't IMAGINE the bloating and hormonal aspect of your count let alone having 43 AND having to take some tests. Holy Moly!

 

[Baby4MJ]

B4MJ,
Interesting that you mentioned that progesterone delays AF. I hate the wait of TWW & the last thing I want is to lengthen the wait while giving me false hope of being PG, but since my period came 5 days early this month (giving me only a 10 day luteral phase), my RE has promised to re-test my progesterone levels and give me suppositories if I want them. He said it can't hurt, and can only help. Fun, fun! Do you have a recommendation btn progesterone shots, cream, or suppositories?

Hi, lavalux! :wave:

I hate the 2WW too, but after a handful of times of AF being late and getting my hopes up without getting a BFP, I did some internet research to learn that the progesterone can delay your cycle. So basically I wait until CD30 (I have a 25-day cycle), take an HPT and if it's a BFN I stop the progesterone and the witch shows her face within a few days after I stop. It makes the 2WW that much longer, but I would rather suffer the extra few days than risk stopping the progesterone and find out I'm preggo. After so many BFNs, I guess I'm just used to the extended 2WW now. I'm not sure which your doctor recommends, or which you're leaning toward using (cream, shots, suppositories) but I would recommend the suppositories or shots over the cream, since my understanding is that the cream isn't as "potent". I don't love needles, so I chose the suppositories, which are a little messy but I use them at night right before bed so it's not too bad (be sure you always have pantiliners! ).

Best of luck and LOTS of for a successful IUI and a sticky bean (or beans)!

p.s. I love love LOOOOVE Duran Duran! Ever since the 5th grade. I still have the gigantic poster that covered one entire wall of my room when I was a girl (it's not still up, of course, because that would be weird...right? LOL)

 

[HappyAuntie]

B4MJ,
Interesting that you mentioned that progesterone delays AF. I hate the wait of TWW & the last thing I want is to lengthen the wait while giving me false hope of being PG, but since my period came 5 days early this month (giving me only a 10 day luteral phase), my RE has promised to re-test my progesterone levels and give me suppositories if I want them. He said it can't hurt, and can only help. Fun, fun! Do you have a recommendation btn progesterone shots, cream, or suppositories?

Hi, lavalux! :wave:

I hate the 2WW too, but after a handful of times of AF being late and getting my hopes up without getting a BFP, I did some internet research to learn that the progesterone can delay your cycle. So basically I wait until CD30 (I have a 25-day cycle), take an HPT and if it's a BFN I stop the progesterone and the witch shows her face within a few days after I stop. It makes the 2WW that much longer, but I would rather suffer the extra few days than risk stopping the progesterone and find out I'm preggo. After so many BFNs, I guess I'm just used to the extended 2WW now. I'm not sure which your doctor recommends, or which you're leaning toward using (cream, shots, suppositories) but I would recommend the suppositories or shots over the cream, since my understanding is that the cream isn't as "potent". I don't love needles, so I chose the suppositories, which are a little messy but I use them at night right before bed so it's not too bad (be sure you always have pantiliners! ).

Just to add my two cents to the progesterone discussion... My RE prescribed the suppositories after my recurrent mc workup and he's the one who told me to do an HPT at 14dpo and if it's BFN to stop the progesterone then (because yes, it will delay AF if you keep taking it and you're not pregnant). He prescribed the suppositories because they are a LOT cheaper than the PIO shots. But the suppositories contain peanut derivatives, so if you have a peanut allergy the PIO shots are your only option. I take two 200 mg suppositories/day - one in the morning, one in the evening, roughly 12 hrs apart - starting at 3dpo (or now, at 3 days past trigger). And yes, they are very messy and goopy. (Just one reason why my ttc break has been nice - no mess!!)

Here's the other thing, though. While science has found a link between low progesterone and mc, what no one has been able to determine is which comes first - does a pregnancy end because of low progesterone, or is progesterone low because the pregnancy was doomed from the start (chromosomally speaking)? That's why progesterone support falls under the "it couldn't hurt and it may help" field of medical advice. If a baby has too many chromosomes (or not enough), no amount of extra progesterone in the world is going to prevent that miscarriage. (And the VAST majority of first-trimester pregnancy loss is caused by random chromosomal problems - nothing anyone can do to prevent them, nothing anyone can do to cause them - a horrible, sh*tty fact of life.) But a little extra progesterone never hurt anyone, so most drs will offer it.

Just as an aside, in the case of IVF, progesterone support is mandatory because the egg retrieval process prevents the corpus luteum from forming (the cyst that forms on the follie that released the egg and produces progesterone until the placenta takes over at around 10-13 weeks).

 

[HappyAuntie]

And as for Duran Duran, SWOON!!! Just one more thing I love about all of us being around the same age - same girl crushes!!

 

[lavalux]

Exactly, MA! It is so nice to have a site where everyone is the same age. And yes, Baby4MJ, it would be a little weird to have a giant band poster on the wall now, but it's funny to think about it. I had movie posters in my bedroom - The Sure Thing (with John Cusak), Breakfast Club, and Oxford Blues (Rob Lowe was so dreamy).

Thanks for the advise on progesterone. You ladies are well informed. My doctor comes out on the side of the progesterone production ending b/c there was no pregnancy, but I'll try the progesterone suppositories just in case. I haven't had any Clomid side effects so far, 3 more nights to go on them, but I keep thinking that this is baby stuff (no pun intended) compared to the IVF protocol!

Skye,
Good news ... keep us posted.

Baby4MJ,
We are the same age, and our husbands' ages are close too. I know that we will have our babies one day and this wait will be worth it!!! Did you do one IUI? I hope you don't mind me asking, but how did you know when it was a good time to take a break? That's sort of a personal questions, so do not feel obligated to answer. I think that we will do one more IUI if necessary in June, then break & replenish the baby fund.

Hope everyone has a great week!

 

[skye2010]

HAahahahahaaa, count me in the Duran Duran circle too girls ))

Titi thank you for the encouragment. Congratulations on the 13 weeks. You are already at the second trimester. )) Did you start stocking up on the baby necessities yet.

Nevernever, Ma is right about the test patience really. You will get there in the end. Take it easy for now sweety

Twinkle, you've done really well up to now buy losing all that weight so lurk away baby.

Just for the general discussion. I'm on suppositories as well right now. Better than having an injection cause the progestrone injection needles are massive (Don't know what's it like in the US but here it's thick and long ), they are done on the bum muscle and you need someone else to do it. I was so relieved when they told me to carry on with the suppositories. I bought a load of cheapy surgical gloves and just use that to push it in.

Nevernever, MA is right that it is a waiting game. Don't forget you will get there but in the mean time a box of ice cream/choclate and some silly soap might be helpful for cheering up.

Twinkle you've done realy really well on the weight loss up to now. Lurk away my friend.

FM and Dwrgi thank you girls. I am still bloated right now if that's a good sign )) I can hardly keep away from getting a pregnanacu test. I think I might ask DH to bring one today and sneak it tomorrow morning.

Lava did you have Bruce Springsteen as well? I can't think of 1 girl in my class who didn't have either Bruce Springsteen or Bon Jovi poster )) ha ahahaha Woow you are almost there with the stimms. Good luck hon. Are you going to take the trigger too? Yeah the IVF is a lot more intense. Up to the egg collection it's ok but after that is a bit sore! But don't forget what I have is not unusual but not very very common either. There was another girl who had 29 eggs taken (Yeah bit mad no?) and her bloating subsiede after 4-5 days. No pregnancy symptomps at all and she just flew over to Spain for a holiday just after her BFP. It's just my twisted luck really Or it might be because I couldn't manage to keep up my protein-water intake not sure.
Baby dust girls.xx

 

[HappyAuntie]

Bruce Springsteen was alright (especially his backside on that Born in the USA album cover), but the one man who covered 90% of my walls was GEORGE MICHAEL!! I was a BIG Wham fan!! He still makes me feel all giggly! And when he came out of the closet, I was crushed! I was so blind to his truth - I just didn't want to see it!

 

[gingerbread]

Hi girls just wanted to pop in real quick. Will catch up later.

Skye sounds so promising!!!! My friend down the street who did ivf had all the major bloating as well & was MISERABLE...but she now has her 5month old baby girl. Must be a really good sign. I have everything crossed for you & cant wait till wednesday!!!!!

Never I'm not feeling anything either(maybe pms cramps saturday) and think I'm out as well. But we're still early on so we can't give up yet!!!!!!

Hello to everyone else

 

[FutureMommie]

Caroleb- So happy that you are ready to try again, I am rooting for you!

Never- Sorry you got a bfn What is your plan for this next cycle?

Baby4mj- Good luck in your 2ww

Skye- so excited!!!!!! The bloating will all be worth it.

AFM- I am 12dpo and not feeling anything at all except anxiety...ugh, I think I may test tomorrow just to put myself out of the misery of waiting.

 

[skye2010]

Gearge Michael in a white Speedo in "Club Tropicano" Wooohaaahahhahaha !!! He was found in a park with a bloke just down the road from where I live 6-7 years ago again. This park has a woman's pond, a man's pond and a mixed pond. You can guess how frisky it gets when the sun's out Hahhhahahaha!!! I think his sister actually lives not too far, 1/2 hr drive from me. She had a shop and and my exboss who was Greek was her client. He is Greek too. I used to adore him when I was 16-17 year old girl with attrocious frizzy permed hair in Turkey When my boss mentioned his sister I thought "How small is this world?"

FM and Ginger no signs really doesn't mean anything. 2 girls in my other thread had no signs and both preggy. So really don't read into it. I'm rooting for you both girls.

 

[lavalux]

FM, Ginger, and Never,
Keep us posted. You aren't out until the old hag arrives! Not having any symptoms doesn't mean a thing. You could still be pg. Hang in there!

Y'all, I liked "the Boss" aka Bruce Springsteen and loved all the Jon Bon Jovi songs, but I have to agree with HA, I thought that George Michael was a complete hottie! Speaking of a great tush! ha ha

Skye,
Two more days until your BFP! I'm rooting for you!

 

[CheshirePanda]

Hi all

I'm so glad to have found this thread....joined BnB yesterday but its good to speak with others who are older....I'm 38 (as is my partner) and have been TTC for 5 cycles now.

If you know success stories of us older women getting succesful, please share them! My partner and I are worried we've left it too late

By the way- what does DH mean?? I think i've worked out most of the abbreviations but that one I can't get.

 

[onmymind17]

Thanks to you all about the picture. It may not last long(DH doesnt like it because it doesnt flatter him) but it was such a happy day that day...we had gone to Hot Springs for St. Pattys day parade & I was 10dpo back in March(3rd iui) and we were sure I was prego that time John Corbet(Aiden on sex&the city/also in My big fat greek wedding) was the grand marshall-MAJOR CRUSH!!! And his band played after.

Praying Im so sorry about AF. You take all the time you need..we will be here for you when your ready.

Onmymind & baby4mj on my earlier post when I put mmc I thought that meant multiple mc but apparently not. Ooops!

Nikki are you doing better hon? I dont know if you watched LMN "William & Kate" but the guy they picked to play Prince Harry is a JOKE! Did him no justice at all!!!! I hope you & DH are working out the $$ issue. I know its a huge decision & just sickening to not even have a gurantee with it. Thats something DH & I have been struggling with as well which is kinda why I was relieved he wanted to try one more iui. I hope your doing well.

to everyone!

LOL, i thought that MMC menat multipal m/c also lol, so i was right with you on that one lol.

 

[Neversaynever]

Hi all

I'm so glad to have found this thread....joined BnB yesterday but its good to speak with others who are older....I'm 38 (as is my partner) and have been TTC for 5 cycles now.

If you know success stories of us older women getting succesful, please share them! My partner and I are worried we've left it too late

By the way- what does DH mean?? I think i've worked out most of the abbreviations but that one I can't get.

and welcome

There are many success stories on this thread and there is also lots of support and informative posters here too.

DH= Darling Husband There is a section on the hone page that tells you all the abbreviations used or just ask...most of us are happy to tell you what they are.

AFM:- I would just like to say thank you for all your posivity regarding my BFN...it's been a really hard day for me today where I have got in such a state that I was sent home from work I have a feeling that AF is going to hit me hard this month and that will be another thig to deal with.

I know you all say that it is early at 11 DPO, I know it is too but realistically, I need to accept that it really is a negative as I can't clutch at straws and get my hopes up. I had what I thought was IB at 6 DPO so you can imagine how excited I was and I have fallen from a great height in to the depths of sorrow.

I hate feeling so negative but I think I'm going to try one more cycle with OPK's and if I ovulate on CD11 again, I'm going to throw the rest of them away. I HAVE to stop the obsessing. It is not healthy.

Love and to all

XxX