What? That is such a patronising comment that deserves a kick up her but. Northstar I think that girl doesn't really want friends but an audience to coo her achievements I'm afraid.Thanks ladies, yeah you said it, one of the things she said in the email was I had to relax a bit and helpfully suggested that we take a holiday so as you say she has no idea, she is also younger than us so doesn't have the time pressure of the ticking clock. No one outside this forum seems to get it at all!
Sansham this thread actually exists to shield ourselves from ignorant and irrelevant comments like yours. We have much more understanding, consideration and love that we share with everyone here who has the same attitude. You would have received a totally different response from us if you had displayed the same level of respect and understanding. I can assure you that being an angry and an aggressive person will not achieve the respect you seek ever in life. You need to give first to receive respect. I don't know if any of this would be helpful to put things in perspective for you. I'm suspecting you probably think "OOh they can't understand me" But we do and this is the bottom line of your comment. We like to spend our energy here on being more positive and constructive.
That comment was made in a completely different context than you think. We do use this thread also to vent and let out steam. No one really judges anyone here. Perhaps you would find more support starting a thread that has a title similar to your situation attended by women who go through similar experiences to yours. This thread exists for exactly that reason.
OOH Debs, I hope they can lower your levels fast and efficiently. My close friend in Turkey has the same thyroid issue. (Recently sky rocket TSH) She is still not married at 38 and desperately dreaming of a family. I'm really worried about her but can't comment not to scare her. What sort of tx are they offering to lower it?
Chris you will have a beautiful bb and you will be a great mum ) I actually wrote that to draw attention to this woman who was so happy with the donor egg baby. She kept her for 9 months in her womb bare her and bf her. The bonding she had with her was no different than if it was her own eggs. She was the bundle of love and joy )) I love that story cause it has a happy ending ) And just to answer Purple's question the woman knew it cause the donor had dark hair and olive skin (Typical Greek features) unlike her who was fair. So did the baby. But it was not even an issue. She didn't get a DNA testing or even be curious about it. She only cared about her beautiful babies well being.
LLbean that does look like good signs to me. All fingers and toes crossed for you.
Dwrgi autoimmune testing isn't a routine check on fertility. It is an area where there isn't enough blind trials done yet except the use of steroids and asprin. That's been tried and proved beneficial. However because there isn't enough trials and research done on it only handful of clinics do it. Chicago Uni carry on most of the testing. NHS does some only on women who are young and have had multiple mc's. My clinic ARGC and a few independent drs in London do it (Dr. Gorgy). I think Nottingham Uni does it if I'm not wrong. You can google their names and see what comes up. But I feel your worry is getting a solid and decent clinic that can make you produce a maximum no of eggs and give you a successfull IVF. This is the success rates on top London clinics. (I trust these results even though it is the clinic's website cause this clinic is the most searched and attacked clinic by HFEA so they wouldn't dare publishing anything not real)
https://www.argc.co.uk/statistics.html
The difference between UCH which doesn't carry out autoimmune tx (by the way it's an NHS clinic) and ARGC which does is only 12%. ARGC carries out a very obsessive tx period where all women have a blood tests everyday on beginning of stimms and almost twice a day blood screening and scanning on second half. + PGD on some (including all holidays, Xmass, easter etc) While UCH does shut down on Sundays I believe. So the %12 difference include all the extra care+ autoimmune txs+ some PGD. However some women in ARGC refuse the autoimmune tx and just do the normal IVF route.
From my limited experience women who have multiple mcs or multiple IVF with no BFP success I think the autoimmune tx makes a difference. But also their exceptional care does make a difference in overall success.
You haven't had a successful stimms, egg collection and embryo growth just yet. I'm suspecting with a different drug protocol and more close watch you might be able to produce better embies. But IVF is an expensive tx and difficult to keep trying unless you have big bank balance. So it is a tough call. I personally couldn't take the pressure of all the IUI's and after trying one cheapy IVF (which produced 19 bad quality eggs) in Turkey I realised how difficult the whole process was so went for ARGC. But it was very expensive. I'm sooo lucky and grateful that it was possible for me and that it worked. But for some unlucky girls it didn't work and it was devastating.
So I don't want to suggest anything to you except do a good research on the clinic and fix an appointment with the best. Keep an open mind while you the resarch and on the appt. They would suggest you the best options for your situation (egg donation, ICSI, IVF etc) I know I talked about a few things that contradicts each other but I try to write down all what I have experienced without directing you in one direction.
Sweetie you will get there in the end and you are doing a great job at trying to figure out what's best for u, DH and your little future baby. HUGS and KISSES
Lava sweetie I'm well annoyed on your behalf. Hugs and hugs. I love your post. If young people had the same level of wisdom I wonder if their choices might have been different in life. I'm sure their choices of words would have been.
Purple )) it wasn't silly at all. LOL!!!! I asked exactly the same thing when I heard this and said I would have gone for the DNA test. But the girl who told me this said the woman didn't care. That was the beauty of the story ) LOL!!!!!
Hi Sumat, welcome to this thread ))
AFM I went to the midwife yesterday and I had a big NOOO! to flying both from her and the dr she consulted. Looks like my placenta is right above the cervix very bottom of my uterus. I was told to take it very easy and not to exhaust myself. This condition makes me susceptible to heavy bleeding which could be life threatening for both me and the bb. I am also told I might end up having to have a c section (which I didn't really want) The nurse said the placenta might move later on but a close dr friend in Turkey said it is not very likely so i should get myself ready for cx. I was quite upset and shocked initially but i feel better now. Perhaps it's for the best for Shirin cause I would have really exhausted myself and my nerves if I went back to Turkey. I can not risk her life after all that I have gone through to have her. I guess not even if she was conceived easily cause now I can feel her moving and it's an odd/wonderful feeling. Dunno how to take it easy though. I'm not used to putting up my feet and relaxing even though I don't work.
Girls I love u all here and I'm hoping that all of you would have your sticky beans very very soon. Many many hugs and sunny baby dust. xxxx
Hello Skye, and so glad that you popped in to say hello to us all. I am so glad that you have been told to take it easy because I feared that unless a doc told you to do this, you'd be jetting all over the world! You have got to put yourself and Shirin first, and I am certain that your mother in Turkey will appreciate this. Sometimes, we have to make difficult decisions, and you have to accept that you need to rest and take it easy (that's an order!). I'm sorry that it sounds like you may need a C section-but I am sure you will get al the care in the world, and I'm sure it won't matter how Shirin comes into this world. Huge hugs to you hun-I hope that you can find ways of distracting yourself as I'd already got the impression that you were a busy little bee!!! Perhaps you could write a book about your experiences???? You know sooooooo much, and have a lovely direct way of writing!
I am going round and round in circles to be honest-it occured to me that it would be interesting to have immune testing, to address the essential problem of why after almost four years, I have been unable to get pregnant (bar one very fleeting PG/mc). I was reading a book about this, and the case study sounded exactly like my own life, and her problems were solved almost overnight once the autoimmune issues were addressed. I have also read through internet research that where there is low ovarian reserve, to avoid really aggressive drugs like Menopur (which I had) and also to slowly harvest eggs until they have a good number. Also, I have read to avoid ovitrel, and that pregnyl is far better in cases like mine. I'm obviously going to bring this up with my FS as she has said to keep in touch. Essentially, what I have learnt is that every follicle will have an egg, but some eggs refuse to release once the ovulation shot has been made as they are chromosomally abnormal-and this is normally found in older women and those with low ovarian reserve (a double whammy for me). Chromosomally abnormal means they are no good, obviously, so are we saying that ten of my eggs were chromosomally abnormal? It doesn't provide much scope for optimism for natual conception (nor IVF for that matter).
So, I am taking DHEA to improve egg quality, also Paradox tablets for essential omega oils, and am thinking of also taking Royal Jelly. Does anybody know anything about this? All these are supposed to be good at improving egg quality. I've also read that the best results from DHEA are found after 6 months of taking. My problem also is that I don't seem to have any EWCM-honestly, it has always been sparse, and some recommend Evening Primrose Oil for this-but only in first two weeks. I'm back on the aspirin too.
But, girls, I am really slowly losing my grip. I have got to act quickly as I just haven't the time to waste any longer. I honestly feel that I am now obsessing about all of this, and it occupies my every waking thought-and there is the stark fear that it will never happen. I need to get a grip, because if I am not careful, then I don't know what's going to happen to me. Sorry sorry sorry, I really don't know what else to say. The last few days have not been good days, I wonder whether this is an effect of the DHEA-I'd read that this can be a side effect of this on or around ovulation, and I'm on Day 12.
Anyway, sorry to hog, once again, and am sending you all big hugs and love.
Incidentally, Lava, how lovely to learn your name, and Laura suits you so well! I am so glad that your mother persevered in having you, because you are always a calm caring presence, who clearly brings a lot of love into the world. And who gives a stuff what other people think about twins at 39-they are just jealous of your good luck, plain and simple. Banish these thoughts from your mind, they are not worthy of attention nor of your energy.
Lots and lots of love to you,
Amanda
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