TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

A friend of a friend went somewhere in Spain for donor eggs, I can ask the name of the clinic if anyone is interested, she ended up getting twins :thumbup:

Good luck HA, PMA is over rated, do what you need to do to protect yourself and if you can't fake a smile so be it, at the end of the day AC is all about science IMO.

Dwrgi, sorry you're feeling low about this whole thing, as Skye has said shop around for clinics, there are other options out there, take your time and do the research and in the meantime concentrate on your health, building those eggs.

MA congrats on reaching the end of a healthy pregnancy and good luck with the delivery :thumbup: great news.

I think they have a donor clinic in Valencia... that's the one my clinic was on about..
 
Ladies, i wish so much that i could wiggle my nose and if i could not give you the children you so deserve then i could at least take away all your pain and sadness, and frustrations, so that you would be happy and care free again, like we used to be before TTC. I love all of you ladies, you amaze me with your knowledge and wisdom and support. :hugs:

AFM i had the hysterosonogram test today, they use saline to inflate your uterus and check it and your tubes, both are perfect from what she said, i also found out on my day 3 exam, i had 12 follies!!!!! Now that is not bad for someone who is 44 from what i understand most of the time at my age your lucky to get 3 or 4, as a matter of fact, she said that i have two eggies on the left side right now at 17mm and 16mm and she said more than likely when i ovulate i will release both of them lol. I said it would be too funny if i got pg with twins before we did the IVF lol. I was so worried about this test, the last time i had it done it was soooooo painful, this time it was amazing, just a small amount of cramping, and this time i did have some bleeding, the last one i did not have that, so maybe she blew out all the cob webs for me. So i have the consultation with the doctor next friday to discuss the IVF plan, all i need now is to get the mammogram results back and have them clear, and to get the A1C test back that i took today and if its 7 or under, we are good to go. I am so excited about trying this with my eggs, with these numbers i am really praying that it will work. So for now all my testing is done, and i can finally relax lol, i have been so wound up, and now i am so very tired lol.
 
AFM i had the hysterosonogram test today, they use saline to inflate your uterus and check it and your tubes, both are perfect from what she said, i also found out on my day 3 exam, i had 12 follies!!!!! Now that is not bad for someone who is 44 from what i understand most of the time at my age your lucky to get 3 or 4, as a matter of fact, she said that i have two eggies on the left side right now at 17mm and 16mm and she said more than likely when i ovulate i will release both of them lol. I said it would be too funny if i got pg with twins before we did the IVF lol. I was so worried about this test, the last time i had it done it was soooooo painful, this time it was amazing, just a small amount of cramping, and this time i did have some bleeding, the last one i did not have that, so maybe she blew out all the cob webs for me. So i have the consultation with the doctor next friday to discuss the IVF plan, all i need now is to get the mammogram results back and have them clear, and to get the A1C test back that i took today and if its 7 or under, we are good to go. I am so excited about trying this with my eggs, with these numbers i am really praying that it will work. So for now all my testing is done, and i can finally relax lol, i have been so wound up, and now i am so very tired lol.

Wow, that's brilliant! I'm so excited for you too! Not surprised you're exhausted, that's one battery of tests you've been through there :hugs:.
 
Ladies, i wish so much that i could wiggle my nose and if i could not give you the children you so deserve then i could at least take away all your pain and sadness, and frustrations, so that you would be happy and care free again, like we used to be before TTC. I love all of you ladies, you amaze me with your knowledge and wisdom and support. :hugs:

AFM i had the hysterosonogram test today, they use saline to inflate your uterus and check it and your tubes, both are perfect from what she said, i also found out on my day 3 exam, i had 12 follies!!!!! Now that is not bad for someone who is 44 from what i understand most of the time at my age your lucky to get 3 or 4, as a matter of fact, she said that i have two eggies on the left side right now at 17mm and 16mm and she said more than likely when i ovulate i will release both of them lol. I said it would be too funny if i got pg with twins before we did the IVF lol. I was so worried about this test, the last time i had it done it was soooooo painful, this time it was amazing, just a small amount of cramping, and this time i did have some bleeding, the last one i did not have that, so maybe she blew out all the cob webs for me. So i have the consultation with the doctor next friday to discuss the IVF plan, all i need now is to get the mammogram results back and have them clear, and to get the A1C test back that i took today and if its 7 or under, we are good to go. I am so excited about trying this with my eggs, with these numbers i am really praying that it will work. So for now all my testing is done, and i can finally relax lol, i have been so wound up, and now i am so very tired lol.

Hey Chris, that is absolutely wonderful news! It holds out a lot of hope for the IVF itself. What day are you on now, and also, how did the doc know that there were two eggs in the follicles?? I am full of curiosity!

Good luck with the test results and yes, you deserve a very big rest after all your tests! All looking good so far, hun! Brilliant and HUGE good luck!!

:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
Dwrgi- Hun I totally know how you feel sometimes it feel like for every step forward it's 2 steps back. Yesterday at my appt I found out that my uterus is a mess with scar tissue which I guess is a result of surgery, even after my local RE said everything looks good less than a year ago. So no IVF until my uterus can be repaired! When I left yesterday I felt like " ok her is another hurdle to jump over and I"m never going to have my baby" but then after all the tears were shed I realized that the diagnosis of the scar tissue was helpful in that hopefully it can be removed and give me a better chance of getting pg. I just keep telling myself that "NOT NOW doesn't mean NOT EVER" Its perfectly ok to be frusturated and said because I'm feeling all of that today but I along with DH have decided as long as I am physically and mentally able to keep pushing forward and trying, that what we are going to do. It's going to happen; the waiting is the super hard frusturating part.

Oh FM, I'm so sorry that you have this new hurdle to leap over but at least they have found out about this now. It is so disappointing as you get your head around the thought of going for treatment, it is such an emotional obstacle, and then this. I am sending you a big hug. How could they say that everything was okay a year ago? It amazes me what we are told and what we have to endure, and also the things that these 'specialists' miss. Could this scar tissue be the cause of your infertility??? At least they have discovered it. I agree with you to push forward and I admire your spirit, as you have got so far, you have to give it a go. Do they know when they are going to sort the scar tissue out?

Keep us all informed of what happens now, hun, I really miss you on here!

Lots of love and huge good luck-I am certain you will get there and sooner rather than later too!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:flower::flower::flower::flower:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
OMM - that must be a huge weight off your mind. You poor thing - you have prodded and poked from all angles. you desrve a rest (and a medal!)

HA - that was an amzing post - I took a lot from that (although I realise it wasn't aimed at me specifically) we can all benefit from you and your counsellor's wisdom, thank you x

Keekee - I don't envy your job (although I have to deal with a lot of pregnant ladies and cute babies too :( it's very hard sometimes to keep that smile plastered on you face! I hope you've a nice day at work though x
 
FM - I am so sorry that you have this new hurdle after your test. however you are amazingly positive that you can see this a good thing. What a shame that it wasn't found earlier. if this is a thing that can be fixed, then maybe your little bean is just around the corner. I really hope so :hugs:
 
Hi everybody! How are you all??? Just wondered whether all the ones who have been trying to get pregnant since FOREVER ever have moments when they feel that they just want to give up??? Everything is a battle, doors are closed in your face more often than opened, and the stress of the research and the unknown aspect of it all, is just so overwhelming...

I am seriously getting my head more and more around the idea that it is just not meant to be for me. I just think that I'm one of the statistics that just couldn't get preggers, and everybody knows one of those, 'bless her heart.'

It is so hard. I found out by following another girl's cycle at ARGC that the cycle cost £12000 FOR ONE cycle of IVF. OMG! Who on earth can aford that?? I can't afford to sell my house to pay for that for a BFN! To be left with nothing. IVF Wales-get in touch in January. Grr. My clinic-bless you, it's your eggs dear. Get used to it. IUI-blinking disaster. IVF-even more of a blinking disaster and £5000 down the pan.

Sorry to be so doom and gloom, but I'm watching my life slip by so focused on this one little thing, which is so fundamentally huge, and getting nowhere fast, it is just nuts, when you think about it.

It's basically all about the haves and have nots, and if, like my brother who HAS and has more than enough money to fund his fiancee's treatment, then you're laughing. If you are a have not, then it's 'tough, you just haven't got the money love, this means no kids.' How is that fair?????

Oh dear, I'm going to go and sort myself out before my next class arrives-I'm just overwhelmed and exhausted by it all.

Sorry sorry sorry guys! :nope::nope::nope:

Oh, and FM if you're reading, GOOD LUCK!! I am sooooooo rooting for you, hun!

ALL THE TIME. You are SO not alone on this. My pendulum swings so widely it'll knock you out if you get too close to it - from I'm so done with all this (angry) to this is never going to work (despondent) to omg I think I'm pregnant (delusional), moving through each at least once a week.... It's a nightmare. It's cruel and unfair and there is no rhyme or reason to it whatsoever.

This is the #1 reason I would happily pay my counselor 1000x more than I already do - infertility counseling is absolutely worth every penny. She is my sounding board. She understands all this and can help me gauge what's real and what's coming from a place of fear or sadness. One of the suggestions she's given me that's been really helpful is to color-code my journal. (I was NEVER a journaler before infertility - I started after my first mc as a way to help get all the upsetting feelings out of me - by writing them down, I felt like I didn't need to carry them around anymore.) She suggested I write in green on "good" days and in red on "bad" days, black for neutral days (or off-topic stuff). The color even changes from one paragraph to the next on the same day. That way, when I am feeling doubtful, I can look back and tell at a glance what my overarching feeling has been on the subject for a while, whether I see more red or more green. Similarly, if you're not a journaler, she suggested taking a calendar and marking it with a red X or a green X at the end of the day, depending on how you've felt that day. It's really hard to determine how you really feel about the subject while you're still in the thick of things, and the whole red/green thing just helps me examine my feelings from a slightly more objective standpoint.

If you're a reader, a good book that actually really explores the decision to stop trying after infertility is Sweet Grapes. It's written by a couple who made the choice to live child-free after years of infertility. Most infertility books only give lip service to the option of getting off the merry-go-round and don't really explore it with honesty and truth, but this one focuses mostly on the choice to stop. It may help you decide if stopping is what you really want.

All that said, though, I think it's really important that you really take the time to fully grieve this failed IVF cycle before making a decision about what to do next. It's been a terrible blow, and it's not something that anyone can just snap back from. You put a tremendous amount of your heart and soul and hope into that one cycle, not to mention a tremendous amount of money, and it did not end the way you wanted it to (the way we ALL wanted it to). You were not even given the opportunity to complete the whole process. And that's a terrible loss that needs to be respected. Any decision you make about future treatment (or not) while you're still grieving this cycle is going to be clouded by your grief.

As for watching your life slip by while working toward this one goal, I know exactly what you mean. It's something we've been working really hard on together (with the help of my trusty counselor!). Infertility takes over your whole life before you even realize it, and it's hard to reclaim your life. On that front, another helpful tool my counselor has given us is the nightly "baby talk." Choose a spot in your house that never gets used for anything else. For us it's the formal dining room - why do houses even have them?! A guest room would work as well. You want it to be in a rarely-used spot each time so that you don't have to associate your den or bed or somewhere comfortable and happy with the baby talks, and you want the baby talks to be in the same place and at the same time each night so that you and your DH don't have to worry about the topic springing up at some unexpected moment and catching you off guard. So, now that you have chosen your spot and your appointed time, set a kitchen timer for 5 or 10 minutes. You get that amount of time to say anything baby-related that you want to say - how you're feeling that day. And when the timer goes off, you're done and it's your DH's turn - he gets that same amount of time to talk about how he's feeling that day. (We actually take turns starting, so it's not always me going first.) Some days it will be over very quickly because you will sit down and say, "I have nothing to say today!" Some days you might need longer than 10 minutes. The point is just to give yourselves an appointed time to talk about it each day - knowing that baby talk time is coming frees my mind from thinking about it ALL the time - I know we'll have an opportunity to talk about it later, so I don't have to be anxious wondering how I'll bring up the topic tonight. You don't have to have a baby talk every night - it gets tedious if you try - but aim for 4-5 nights each week. The talks have had a pretty dramatic impact on our relationship. DH has a much better understanding of how all-encompassing this is for me. I have a reassurance that I'm not the only one obsessing over this. When one of us opens up about a totally irrational crazy thought we've had about a cycle or something, we are ALWAYS amazed that the other one has had the same thought before! It's always nice to know you're not crazy, and to realize your partner is just as worried as you are. It has really helped both of us to feel less isolated. And DH no longer has to worry that I'm going to ambush him over breakfast about something I'm freaking out over.

And as for the cost of someone else's treatment cycle - ignore it. Every cycle is individually tailored to each patient/couple. No two treatment cycles are the same. Between different diagnoses, different drugs, different responses, different drs, different training, different philosophies, different labs, etc, there are millions of possible permutations. The fact that one woman's cycle cost GBP 12k doesn't mean squat with regards to YOU. You are not her. Your cycle is not her cycle. Don't let her cost frighten you away from getting more information about YOU. And don't think of your GBP 5000 spent as waste - it was spent on diagnostics. You and your drs learned lots of things in that cycle - how your ovaries responded to that particular drug at that particular dose, how your DH's sperm acted in the lab, etc - and that knowledge can be applied to another cycle, improving your chances on the next cycle because you're not starting at square one.

Choosing to stop treatment is a valid choice. Just be sure it's one made out of clear, level-headed thinking and not one made out of fear or sadness. Make sure it's an informed "no", and save yourself from future doubt and regret.

Big, big, huge squeezy hugs to you. The kind that make you grunt because you can't breathe. You are a wonderful woman and a dedicated teacher and a dear friend, and you are special to all of us here, so take care of yourself - be kind to yourself - you deserve it. :hugs:
xoxoxoxo

Oh thank you so much for this, this is allllll so helpful. You have such good advice and obviously took a lot of your time to write to me. Thank you thank you, you are a true friend.

I see a counsellor, but he isn't a fertility specialist. It started off because of stress at work, but we generally speak about TTC and my OH (who is very idiosyncratic). I am going to start writing a journal-I do have one that I dip into every now and again, but I haven't written anything in it for ages. I might just get my thoughts down on paper. I also like the idea of allowing myself to grieve for the failed cycle, and I do agree that it can be considered as an experimental exercise, so wasn't completely wasted. I did show my OH an article about how to cope with infertility a while back, and we do try to talk about it more often, so it's not something that I feel I can't broach. He is generally good about letting me vent, although doesn't tend to vent himself (hence the shock when he disclosed how he felt when we were out in Cardiff). I might try this method, and allow each of us a certain amount of minutes to discuss our feelings.

These are all such good ideas, and I really appreciate your time and effort. I am just soooooooo tired at the moment, with constant meetings after work, a really heavy timetable and I am completely exhausted, and I am certain that the stress of TTC impacts hugely too on everything. It is always there, as you well know yourself. I am going to get an early night tonight, and hope to feel a bit like myself tomorrow.

Thanks so much for being there and to everybody else too. You are all one in a million!

Lots and lots of love,
Amanda
xx:flower:
 
AFM i had the hysterosonogram test today, they use saline to inflate your uterus and check it and your tubes, both are perfect from what she said, i also found out on my day 3 exam, i had 12 follies!!!!! Now that is not bad for someone who is 44 from what i understand most of the time at my age your lucky to get 3 or 4, as a matter of fact, she said that i have two eggies on the left side right now at 17mm and 16mm and she said more than likely when i ovulate i will release both of them lol. I said it would be too funny if i got pg with twins before we did the IVF lol. I was so worried about this test, the last time i had it done it was soooooo painful, this time it was amazing, just a small amount of cramping, and this time i did have some bleeding, the last one i did not have that, so maybe she blew out all the cob webs for me. So i have the consultation with the doctor next friday to discuss the IVF plan, all i need now is to get the mammogram results back and have them clear, and to get the A1C test back that i took today and if its 7 or under, we are good to go. I am so excited about trying this with my eggs, with these numbers i am really praying that it will work. So for now all my testing is done, and i can finally relax lol, i have been so wound up, and now i am so very tired lol.

I'm so glad it went well and was pain-free! :thumbup: I'm sure the mammogram will be fine, and hopefully even if your A1C isn't quite there, it will be close enough to get the ball rolling! :happydance:


I am actually crapping it... am off the pill as of today... and steriods and other pills start next week... however, have just been told that I am at risk of redundancy so come Dec I could be unemployed... great timing eh!:nope: Ahh well, no point worrying about it cos our donor is all systems go and all is booked so I will just have to dust off my CV.

Stressing isn't going to change the outcome of my job or my treatment... only difference is I am excited and crapping it about my treatment!!.... just pissed off about my job lol..:dohh:

:happydance::happydance: for treatment!!! So when do you travel? :growlmad::growlmad: for redundancy! FX'd it doesn't come to pass. But hey, if it does, maybe it's just preparation for becoming a stay-at-home mom! :winkwink:

Hey hey, ladies.
Am back at work so don't have much time now for forum tomfoolery, which is pants. Thoroughly sick of the 2WW and having to do the happy face for all the pg ladies. Can't get away from them at work unfortunately :wacko:.

Gosh, lots of news to get up to date with on this thread! Just wanted to say a massive GL to everyone - I really take my hat off to you all. It never ceases to amaze me how y'all talk about your situations with such positivity and humour; as someone who's only just setting off on the TTC road I am truly humbled and am following each and every trial and tribulation even though sometimes I can't post a response. Y'all are in my prayers and thoughts and just wanted to send lots of love and a big bag of baby dust to each and every one of you lovely and very deserving girlies.

:hugs:

I stopped pretending to do the happy face for other ladies some time ago. I just don't have the strength for it anymore. But that's the nice thing about this thread - I can admit that here instead of finding some way to tactfully leave the room when they come around! :haha: Now, back to the tomfoolery!


Lou, what time is your scan on Friday? :hugs:

AFM, roll on Friday. I have three eggs for sure, maybe even FOUR - yikes! :shock: The right has one at 19.9, and the left has three at 19.5, 15.7, and 14.6, and the dr says they have to consider anything at 15 or more as potentially popping out a mature egg. My E2 is at 691 (more yikes! That's the highest it's ever gone!), which also indicates three, maybe four eggs (they're looking for E2 to be between 150-200 per mature egg). So I trigger tonight and the IUI will be Friday. Gone is my laid-back attitude of last night - I am now deathly afraid this is going to work and we'll have to figure out how to handle multiples. :help:

This is my 5th medicated cycle and I've never had 4 eggs before. What I find most interesting is that my dosage of stims has been exactly the same for the last three cycles, but my body has responded very differently each time - the first time at this dose I had 3 eggs and an E2 of 352; second time 2 eggs and E2 of 289 (and got pregnant); and now 3-4 eggs and E2 at 691. It's no wonder REs can't guarantee how anything will go.... :shrug:
 
Good luck, HA! Keep us posted.

Purple,
What time is your scan on Fri?

FM,
I'm sorry that you have to wait & have some surgery on your uterus. A friend had that but got pg on her next cycle, which was her 1st IVF. It is best that they can take care of it on the front end and then you'll get the green light.

OMM,
Such great news. Good luck with the mammogram.

Dwrgi,
Don't you quit now, hun. You will be such a good mom. Hang in there. I wish I come over and we could sit quietly together & I would play one of my favorite songs for you by Kate Bush & Peter Gabriel called "Don't Give Up". Do you know that song?
 
"Don't Give Up"
- Kate Bush & Peter Gabriel

For Amanda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1rRxG251s

In this proud land we grew up strong
we were wanted all along
I was taught to fight
taught to win
I never thought I could fail.
No fight left or so it seems
I am a man whose dreams have all deserted
I've changed my face
I've changed my name
But no one wants you when you lose.

Don't give up - 'cause you have friends
Don't give up - you're not beaten yet
Don't give up - I know you can make it good.

Though I saw it all around
never thought that I could be affected
Thought that we'd be last to go
it is so strange the way things turn.
Drove the night toward my home
the place that I was born on the lakeside
As daylight broke I saw the earth
the trees had burned down to the ground.

Don't give up - you still have us
Don't give up - we don't need much of anything
Don't give up
'cause somewhere there's a place where we belong.
Rest your head
you worry too much
it's going to be alright.
When times get rough you can fall back on us

Don't give up
please
don't give up!

Got to walk out of here
I can't take anymore
Going to stand on that bridge
keep my eyes down below.
Whatever may come and whatever may go -
That river's flowing
that river's flowing.

Moved on to another town
tried hard to settle down
For every job so many men
so many men no one needs.

Don't give up - 'cause you have friends
Don't give up - you're not the only one
Don't give up - no reason to be ashamed
Don't give up - you still have us.
Don't give up now - we're proud of who you are
Don't give up - you know it's never been easy
Don't give up - 'cause I believe there's a place
There's a place where we belong
 
Ladies, i wish so much that i could wiggle my nose and if i could not give you the children you so deserve then i could at least take away all your pain and sadness, and frustrations, so that you would be happy and care free again, like we used to be before TTC. I love all of you ladies, you amaze me with your knowledge and wisdom and support. :hugs:

AFM i had the hysterosonogram test today, they use saline to inflate your uterus and check it and your tubes, both are perfect from what she said, i also found out on my day 3 exam, i had 12 follies!!!!! Now that is not bad for someone who is 44 from what i understand most of the time at my age your lucky to get 3 or 4, as a matter of fact, she said that i have two eggies on the left side right now at 17mm and 16mm and she said more than likely when i ovulate i will release both of them lol. I said it would be too funny if i got pg with twins before we did the IVF lol. I was so worried about this test, the last time i had it done it was soooooo painful, this time it was amazing, just a small amount of cramping, and this time i did have some bleeding, the last one i did not have that, so maybe she blew out all the cob webs for me. So i have the consultation with the doctor next friday to discuss the IVF plan, all i need now is to get the mammogram results back and have them clear, and to get the A1C test back that i took today and if its 7 or under, we are good to go. I am so excited about trying this with my eggs, with these numbers i am really praying that it will work. So for now all my testing is done, and i can finally relax lol, i have been so wound up, and now i am so very tired lol.

Hey Chris, that is absolutely wonderful news! It holds out a lot of hope for the IVF itself. What day are you on now, and also, how did the doc know that there were two eggs in the follicles?? I am full of curiosity!

Good luck with the test results and yes, you deserve a very big rest after all your tests! All looking good so far, hun! Brilliant and HUGE good luck!!

:hugs::hugs::hugs::hugs:

Thanks honey, right now i am on cycle day 10, and i am sorry i should not say they had eggs in them, she can see two follies lol, forgive me i am tired and really not thinking, or maybe i am just wishing they will both have eggs in them lol.
 
Just wanted to pop in and say hi ladies.

FM - I am so sorry about the news with the uterus honey. I know how hard it is to get back news but looks like you are in the right frame of mind. It is just a TEMPORARY set back. I have to tell you, one of my best friends had alot of trouble TTC for some time and they found out she had fibroids and then scar tissue (she sadly suffered a few losses in that time period). But she had the surgery and <drum roll please> yes, she finally got her sticky bean boy and a a year later, her stick bean little girl. So there is hope after surgery. I will be thinking of you honey and praying for a speedy recovery and then a little :baby:

kee kee - the TWW is the worst hon- makes you :wacko:. But hang in there! I am hoping and praying you get that BFP!

To all you other ladies, hope you all had a good day.

AFM- really exhausted - saw the surgeon today for the gallbladder follow-up. All is well and the pain I am still having is normal and will fade over time he says. Unfortunately, I lost a gallbladder and gained a UTI after they had to (TMI) catheterize me afer the surgery so he gave me meds for that. Thank goodness! It is 8:00 pm and I am ready to pass out. I think I am actually going to listen to my body tonight :sleep:
 
Girls I've been busy. So will catch up late. Hope everyone is keeping happy xxxxx
 
Oh thank you so much Lava for this-it means a lot to have you guys on here. I think I am just completely exhausted by it all and need to take a step back and think about actions to put in place. I'm definitely going to do what HA suggested with regard to having time to speak about TTC with OH and also a journal. Your success at IUI also inspires me so I am so glad that you pop in on us all. It is really lovely to hear how you are getting on.

I am CD27 (I think) and have some pinky brown spotting this morning, which I'm sure means that AF is around the corner. My cycle is all over the place this month-I'm sure I ovulated on day 17 so this is a very short cycle but that's probably down to IVF drugs.

Just wondering whether I should go back and ask for my two IUIs-I was allowed three. My NHS FS said she would do the IUI for me if I wanted to after IVF/some future date.

I am also a bit annoyed that in this country they don't take your bloods to find your E levels, and after reading HA's post, it sounds such a helpful barometer. My local NHS clinic doesn't open on a Saturday and Sunday either, so they time you to trigger to suit them, not necessarily when your body is ready. How rubbish is that??

Anyway, thanks Lava, and thanks everybody else for being so kind and supportive.

Lots of love to you all, and HUGE doses of :dust:!

Does anybody have any idea about how Macwooly is getting on?? I am worried about her.

Also, Butterfly-any news on dates for flying back permanently? I wish I could help you pack and bring stuff back.

Purple-good luck for tomorrow. You have been so calm throughout this, a true inspiration!

OMM-still feeling a sense of 'Phew' after all your tests? You deserve a complete rest after all those. Let's hope the results are good!

Hey Pad-did you say that you have started the injections??? Did I make that up?? Oh, I am soooo rooting for you!

HA-all the best with your IUI tomorrow-you've got a lot of potential there and we are rooting for a happy outcome! Thinking of you!

Skyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyye! How are you hun? Did you get your bathroom sorted?? Hope you're taking it easy? I bet London is a nightmare in this heat!

North Star, Twinkle, FM, Luvmydoggies, BearLake, 4Ever Young, LLBean, Keekee, and everybody else-HUGE HUGS to you all!

I have just bust my new work keyboard as I spilt coffee all over it. Somehow, not going to mention that to my Head. BUt the return button is now in retirement. Grrr.

Love to you all, have a good day! :hugs:
 
Hi Ladies, just letting you know that I chatted with Macwooly last night via email, she is well and has lost more weight at Slimming World and so has her DH, she passed on her best wishes to you all, her computer is getting rebuilt and she hopes to be back soon.
 
Hi Ladies, just letting you know that I chatted with Macwooly last night via email, she is well and has lost more weight at Slimming World and so has her DH, she passed on her best wishes to you all, her computer is getting rebuilt and she hopes to be back soon.

Thanks for the update! Good to hear that Macwooly is okay! Way to go on losing weight! I put on half a stomne cos I thought it would help me get pregnant, now nothing fits and I can't shift it! I also suspect that AF is here and BOY AM I GOING TO TUCK INTO THOSE CHOC BRAZILS..... And I really don't care!

How are you hun??
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Woow soo much is going on in a few days.

Wohoo Chris great news on how many follicles they saw. And that's without the stimms right? I am surprised you had so many different info coming through the door in such a short time. I hope IVF with your eggs would work out for the best hon. I believe in you and rooting for you. Just make sure your clinic is a good one and they know what to do with lower AMH results. Lot's of good luck and baby dust.xxxx

Butterfly ARGC gets super busy. They are better on the phone or if you leave a msg on the phone. Before you get an appointment and actually you start the tx they seem very lax but they are not.

Dwrgi Hugs, hugs many hugs. Sweetie it really is mind blowing. If you ever decide to give up that is a different thing to discuss. We would all support you through with the feelings. But I feel that you are very frustrated at the moment and you are looking for an exit whole. I had the exact same reaction when I heard about the prices in ARGC. I expected all the posh rich girls lining the waiting room. That just was not the case at all. Most are like very middle class families who try to pinch on whatever they can. And there are ways. As HA said not every tx is the same. Ask that girl you talked to if she had any immune tx as well. Cause that's what really bulks up the price. You could do without it. The blood scans add up too which is unavoidable. But for example once you get pregnant u can do the HSG's in your local if it is cheaper up there. You can get a hysterescoy with a local clinic again if it is cheaper there.You can try to get the meds from a cheaper supplier. You can also ask your GP if they can help you out with some of the meds. Some GP's actually did do that. Maybe not the stimm meds but they can prescribe clexane and progestrone suppositories. Or you can ignore all those meds after pregnancy cause most women don't usethem anyway. I kept it cause I knew I had a tendency to autoimmune issues through mum. My leveles were good yet we just didn't get pregnant for years. So the only other explanation was that. But you have never had a good IVF process yet where your eggs have fertilised. So You need to get a solid tx first. There is a break down of all the prices on their website and actually their individual procedure ex: Egg transfer, single blood test, scan etc is along side the London prices. But all the other extra work makes them bulk up so much. If you want to go through one by one and have an estimate of your tx I could sit down and help you add up all that.

The tx without autoimmunes should cost somewhere between 7000 to 10000. Which is still a lot. But having a near %5o chance in one go is better than having %30 chance in 2 goes. And imagine you spent 5000 already without the embryo transfer and hysterescopy. Your tx would have been more expensive if those steps were actually taken. And it would keep adding up if you have a couple more that doesn't work.
Now ARGC might still be out for you. Than UCH results are really quite bright as well. Which is around 6000-7000 I believe. You can call and find out.
Also did you ask that girl with a low AMH where she got her IVF with BFP? I wonder if that is workable?
There is the option of going for donor eggs abroad as well if you are willing to do that. I think I would have done that or adoption if I had no other options cause the idea of living without a child is not something I can settle with. Padbrat's a good source for all the info.
Definitely worth checking out the IUI again.
Don't let all this info overwhelm you cause even if you decide to give up. Better find out what you can and than make that choice on a knowing mind than give up and regret it later on in life.
BTW they do E levels which is oestrogen. If your clinic didn't do that I'd be surprised.

Keeky :)) You've gone through a big battle with your own health before so I bet you have all the strength in yourself to take anything that comes along. Lot's of luck, bb dust and love to u too xxx

Hey Twinks you are not a fat lady anymore. U are just a chubster after all the weight loss xxx

Debs how you handle things never seize to amaze me. Hats off bb xxxx Can't wait for your 12 week healthy scan news. xxxx

FM I think it is actually really positive that they have detected the fibroids. That may have been a problem why you haven't conceived yet. So maybe once that's resolved you will get there. A few months of backlash is really nothing and it will pass by before you know it. xxxx

HA Biiig goood luck that you would have 1 cute little one out of this. Your results are looking good. :) Isn't it weird that bodies respond to the meds differently at different times?? xx

Lois I'm so excited for you. BIIIIG BIIIG BIIG good luck to you as well. Somehow I beleive that it's gonna work this time. :hugs::hugs:

Hey Laura ;) How u doing buddy? I love the Don't give up song. It makes me sad and happy :)) And I actually listen to it sometimes when I get stuck :) Hahahhahaah!!!!

Are you better today Titi?

Northstar, great news on Macwooly :) How are you hon? xxxx
 
Am a bit meh today, back at work and these 3 days off make me realise how much I need a proper break, major anxiety about BD timing issues this month (4 days time I'm away with work, OH is then away when I come back) the usual blah blah.

Yes both Macwoolys are doing great with their weightloss, it's fab. I'm a big eater (country girl) and don't diet at all so I have to adhere to a fairly punishing gym schedule as a result LOL, and now that Christmas sweeties are in the shops white Toblerone is back in my life. The IVF drugs do put weight on everyone from what I hear, that is an extra bummer for you, but AF time I figure calories consumed do not count :hugs:
 
Girls I'm gonna post my DH pretending to be prego photo here. He would kill me if he knew I do that but I think it's really funny. And I wanna give u a smile today :))
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