TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[dodgercpkl]

Dodger- sending ((((hugs)))) you way

AFM- Not much going on here, I O'd this weekend and still not giving up on my natural bfp, anything is possible. My dh and I decided to talk with my RE about getting the scar tissue removed so I have an appt scheduled for 12/29, also my RE has adopted for the adoption agency that I had a meeting with last week so I intend to take full advantage of the opportunity to talk to him about his experience. I'm super excited about that. We don't have much planned for Christmas, just spending time together and with family.

Thank you. I'm rooting for your natural bfp!! That's awesome to know someone that you can talk to about adoption. I know it's something I've vaguely looked at and it's all so complicated and different from place to place and state to state. It's nice to have someone you know that's been through it. I hope you have a good time at Christmas with your family!

Just popped my nose in to say Dodger, with my last one I fell pregnant after the M/C before with no AF in between... that BFP came as a real shock I can tell you, so believe me hun, it is absolutely possible to get pregnant straight after a M/C. I wish you all the best of luck x

awww thank you guys for welcoming me back... even though I really am a fraud.... spoke to Hubby again about TTC and he is still adamant that we are not going through another pregnancy.

Thanks Pad! My mom was the same with me. I'm so sorry that you've had such a tough year and I'm more sorry that your hubby is against ttc again. You've been through so much more then me, but I do know that despite the worry that it will happen again, the knowledge that I'm ttc again helps me move on and deal with my grief.

NEVER!! OMG! I totally missed it! I'm so praying for a happy and healthy 9 for you! My thoughts and prayers are winging their way to you!

 

[Dwrgi]

AFM...wish I had the willpower to not test at 9/10 DPO. I'm back on that crazy roller coaster and what ever happens I'll deal with it again couldn't make it up

XxX

OMG!!! I missed this too! So excited for you hun! How are you feeling? Let's keep all fingers crossed for a healthy and happy 8 months for you hun. Soooooooooo wishing you a super sticky bean. xxx

 

[twinkle1975]

Pad - I'm glad we've got you to interpret people's posts for us - Congrats Never!!!

 

[Tititimes2]

FM- I am praying for that natural BFP too!

pad- fraud smaud! Love seeing you pop up here. Sorry DH is against it- maybe he just can't stand how emotional it can be and watching you go through it? I know my DH said he hates to see what I go through. But he knows I am committed as long as I can do it emotionally (and who am I kidding - and physically too at my age). How are you feeling about it?

 

[lavalux]

Hoping we see some more natural Christmas surprise BFPs on here. Other than a few bumps with family dysfunction along the way for a few of you (welcome to my world), it sounds like some fun holiday plans are in the works.

Butterfly,
Just wanted to pass on some hugs to you.

Pad,
If you had a journal, no matter how dark it might get in places, I would read it and stay with you on your journey. You will have a family of your own one day! In the meantime, you are never a fraud.

HA,
I'm so glad you & your DH can see his need for help and it is so hard for you I'm sure to see him suffer, but hopefully with your support, Christmas with your family, and the Disney trip to distract him, that Feb appt will be here soon enough and the meds will kick in to give him some relief. I actually noticed a marked improvement after only 3 days on my Budeprion (sp?). Y'all are being smart to wait until the Dr. can see him b/c it would be best to get him on the right meds and dose right out of the gate.

AFM,
I'm counting down the days until the new year when I can stop working. The babies are doing fine but they are on the small side. Liam is lagging behind his sister so the specialist told me today that if the discrepancy continues they will take them early (like 36 weeks) to give him a better shot at growing outside in NICU. ;(

 

[prayingtogod]

Ladies,

I'm having a little issues with Christmas as well. I'm just not in the spirit. I'm not putting up a tree, buying any gifts, or anything.You should see the looks when I tell people I'm not celebrating Christmas this year. One coworker asked if I was an atheist now. I kindly replied no I'm not. I am celebrating the birth of Jesus in my heart. I am not celebrating the man part of Christmas. They still give me weird looks but I think I can get by with that story. Anyway I'm not putting up a tree, buying gifts, or decorating anything until a baby comes into this house or I turn 40. Whichever comes first. Hopefully it will be a baby. I'm already 36. Forty is quickly approaching.

On to better news. I am going to get back in the game in January.I'm om day 23 of a 27 day cycle. I'm going to start back testing. I also made an appointment with my RE. Of Course there are no openings until mid February. After a few cycles. If we are not successful. i guess we are on to the next step.

 

[Neversaynever]

Pad...seriously a journal has kept me sane through these dark months. Big

Dodger...yup this BFP was straight after my last loss without AF

Dwrgi and twinkle...sorry I made it a bit obscure but AF is due Sunday do I might let a teeny cheer out IF I get past that

HA...my OH would listen half heartedly to me and my rantings and he was the one who told me I needed help. When he read the thoughts thing, he cried because it finally hit home and it was there in black and white and completely normal the way in which I an dealing with it all. Hoping you don't have to suffer to much with you FIL and your niece makes it more than worth it

to everyone

XxX

 

[Dwrgi]

Girls-the lady who got pregnant at my local clinic on her fourth IVF, following immunolgy testing, posted the following information regarding her cocktail of drugs and vits. I'm sure she won't mind if I pass this on, if it helps somebody.

Interestingly, the vits and supplements are divided up throughout the day-don't certain vits cause other nutrients not to be absorbed?

Anyway, here we are:

Supplements - minimum of 3 months before treatment :

At Breakfast
DHEA 75mg
Coenzyme 75mg
Vitamin C 1000mg
Royal Jelly 500mg

At Main meal
Vitamin B6 100mg
Vitamin B Complex
Royal Jelly 500mg
Bee propolis 500mg
Pregnacare preconception

At Bedtime
Zinc 15mg
Royal Jelly 500mg
Omega 3 1300mg

All supplements stopped at EC except pregnacare and Omega3. DH took Wellman conception (Only took Pregnacare and Omega 3's on previous cycles). All supplements from Holland and Barratt apart from the Omega 3's and pregnacare from Boots.

IVF protocol :

Suprecur
Menopur 450
Ovitrelle trigger 1 embryo day 3 transfer, 2 embryos day 5 transfer (one with AH)
Ritodrine womb relaxant 3 days from ET
Progynova 3 times daily from ET
Pregnyl 5000 after second ET

(Split ET, womb relaxant and extra Pregnyl shot for the first time this cycle)

Dr Gorgy 'recipe' :

Antibiotics prior to tx as a precaution for both me & DH
Prednisolone 25mg from day 5 of stimms
Clexane from day 5 of stimms 20 mg to EC, 40mg from EC
Prontogest 100mg from EC
Cyclogest once daily 12 hrs before Prontogest from EC
Aspirin 75mg from start of cycle
Intralipids once day 5-7 of stimms, once approx day 10 of stimms

Please note that this protocol is tailored to specific immune results and the clexane and aspirin in particular are due to clotting issues so not all of these things are going to be suitable for everyone. [/COLOR][/COLOR]

 

[missyt]

Ladies,

I'm having a little issues with Christmas as well. I'm just not in the spirit. I'm not putting up a tree, buying any gifts, or anything.You should see the looks when I tell people I'm not celebrating Christmas this year. One coworker asked if I was an atheist now. I kindly replied no I'm not. I am celebrating the birth of Jesus in my heart. I am not celebrating the man part of Christmas. They still give me weird looks but I think I can get by with that story. Anyway I'm not putting up a tree, buying gifts, or decorating anything until a baby comes into this house or I turn 40. Whichever comes first. Hopefully it will be a baby. I'm already 36. Forty is quickly approaching.

Oh praying, I know how you feel. We put a tree with light but no ornaments and the only other decoration is a wreath on the door. I'm not feeling Christmasy either other than what the holiday truly means, Jesus. And I'm pulling out all stops asking Jesus's help to bring me a baby (or at least pregnant) next Christmas. I know how hard it is and you aren't alone.

 

[purplelou]

Praying - you should celebrate or not, in whatever way you want to!

pad - you are so not a fraud, I love to see you here

Never - oh my goodness, I missed it too!!!! I am so sorry. But I am so very happy for you. huge and loads of your way xxxx

HA - that saying about being ablt to choose friends but not being able to choose family, is soooooo true. just count down the hours in your head till you leave you horrid FIL

Twinkle - I am sorry you have to endure your FIL - he sounds like a complete treasure!!!! big to you xxxx

titi - Im doing good thanks for asking, I hope all is well with your scan xx

 

[twinkle1975]

praying & missy - big hugs to you xxx

 

[purplelou]

sorry, had to do this 2 bits,

so to northstar, dodger, Dwrgi, Tigerlilly, missy, wooly (u-hoo) manuiti, FM, Lee, Butterfly, Carol, Lava and Skye (and anyone I am forgtetting - sorry) - big to all you ladies xxx

 

[skye2010]

Amanda I bet your husky babies call u a baby in snowy conditions cause they are made for that no? Hahahahaha. I can actually imagine them going "OOohh poor Amanda baby, she needs to grow more fat and fur to enjoy the lovely weather" hahahahahha!!!!BTW I wonder if DHEA had a helping on your EWCM? Maybe no? Gorgy's meds are a lot more than Taranissi's. Looks like he attacks the cause more vigorously. Doesn't wanna leave anything to chance. Also that woman's med regime. Blimey so many meds. Must be sthg in it since it worked.

HA your xmass and new year plan sounds so lovely Even the movies I love them all. Xcept FIL but just a short bit anyways than u have a lot of fun coming along. Which could do wonders for DH's depression untill he can go see the dr. I really beleive you two will have your baby this year hon. Remind your DH that and tell him all of the girls here are sending you two good vibes and wishes. xxxx BTW any chance to keep Fil's mouth shut by stuffing him with mince pies and xmass pudding etc?

Twinks awww your FIL ain't any better. Honestly these people must have a sort of a switch no? My mum's a nightmare when she gets on her high horses. And I find it very very difficult to keep my mouth shout so double well done on those who can.

Never I got all excited for a bit just there. Anyways hope you get a sticky bean soon. Is NHS doing any investigative tests on you at all now?

FM I hope u get a natural BFP. Good idea you are getting the scar tissue removed, it might help ) Rooting for you hon.

Debs you are a sweet pie. You are never a fraudster or depressing or anything that's not pleasant. On the contrary. I wish I had a magic wand that could take away all this heart break for you and your DH xxxx

Laura weird enough I heard that multiples can be born in different dates. Dunno how easy or widespread this practice is but they get to have 2 different cx's. Anyways have u tried any of that protein diet? Hope he catches up soon xx

twinkle I love your avatar

Missy hopefully you would be pregnant before next Xmass.

Praying, hope the baby comes first, you have a good plan in action xxx

Purple, Dodger, Manuiti, Chris, Northstar, Tigerlilly, Wooly, Butterfly, Carol, big hus and love girls. Last year there was a good few pregnancies going between xmass and around easter time so hope this year will be the same.

Any UK girls managed to get Heston Blumenthals xmass pudding? Really what's all the fuss? it's on food articles constantly.

AFM I am trying to get rid of a nasty cold. It wouldn't leave the last 3 weeks It is oficially 3 weeks now actually. Got a cx date for 5th Jan.

 

[NorthStar]

Big hellos to everyone

Not much happening with me so I'm mostly lurking, probably on a break due to timing as my OH's shifts are changing again

I HATE christmas pudding Skye, in fact I hate all forms of dried fruit but had a friend visiting from the Middle East last month, all she wanted to do was go to Waitrose and buy up Christmas pudding and mince pies to take home in her suitcase

Talking DHEA I did order some and it will arrive soon, but I have talked myself out of taking it, after doing a bit of research I think it might be too much for me, I haven't had a lot of success with supplements to say the least. The COQ10 seems to be ok though, this is my third month on it.

 

[Dwrgi]

Skye-I think they threw everything at this woman. She had blood clotting issues, which was picked up by the immune tests she had done. I can't believe she's done it, but I am soooooooo delighted for her. She, like every body on here, completely deserves her BFP. Let's hope that the BFPs come thick and fast for us! The huskeys LOVE the cold but cos they're domesticated, they're quite happy in front of the fire too!!! Gwydion looks like a real boy-he's so athletic and fit, but he's now carrying his favourite new toy around with him-an old cushion my mother gave him. It's the vilest pattern ever but he ADORES it, and brings it to you, to tug of war, throw so he can retrieve, etc. And if Madam Ruby goes anywhere near it, watch out!!!! Big wrestling bouts then ensue. They are soooo funny! OMG-January 5th-it must be so bizarre to actually get a date! I am so excited for you hun! I bet you can't wait to meet Shirinku!! Take it easy my sweet, and that's an order!!

Missy-be kind to yourself hun. Do whatever you have to do to find some cheer. You have started on the IVF journey, you are doing something about the problem, you are on your way! Keep positive and I am sure that next Xmas you will be pregnant or have your own baby by next Christmas.

Praying-the same! Although I wish I was 36 again!! You've got plenty of time to put things in place so try not to worry. It's a good idea to see your RE, and you too will feel that you're working towards your BFP.

NorthStar, apart from acne during ovulation and greasier hair, haven't really noticed any difference with taking DHEA. Although, this newly developed ability to produce EWCM (see, I'm still proud about it!!) may be down to it, may be down to the 2 litres of water I'm drinking every day, may be down to my vits, may be down to the acupuncure, may be down to WHO KNOWS!!! Stick with what feels right for you hun. What a blow that your DH's schedule make it difficult to DTD this month-at least you can have a drink over Xmas and not worry about it! Thinking of you hun, Axxxx

Laura-so bizarre to hear you referring to Liam, you must be so excited. I should imagine that one being smaller than the other is quite normal. Try not to worry hun.

(The dogs have now de stuffed said cushion, and kapok is all over the floor. Sigh........)

Never-how are you feeling today lovely? Am so excited for you. Are you waiting for AF before you know for sure or going with the POAS result?? Let's hope that Oopsie is getting snuggled in!! Keeping everything crossed for you hun. xxxx

Love to you all!! Got to go and mark 5 million exam papers (or so it seems). Double sigh.....

 

[padbrat]

Lovely ladies.... I am always here for you all xxxxx

.....and thank you for your comments, makes me cry lol

xxxxxxxxxxx (hugs)xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[padbrat]

p.s. Dodger hun, any loss is devastating regardless of how many you have been through. Your positive attitude is great! I am hoping that you get your BFP x

 

[FutureMommie]

Praying- I totally undersand what you mean, I don't feel extra Christmasy either! I guess we just feel like something is missing. ((((((hugs)))))))

Hey ladies, I hope you are all doing great!!!!!!!!!

 

[HappyAuntie]

HA your xmass and new year plan sounds so lovely Even the movies I love them all. Xcept FIL but just a short bit anyways than u have a lot of fun coming along. Which could do wonders for DH's depression untill he can go see the dr. I really beleive you two will have your baby this year hon. Remind your DH that and tell him all of the girls here are sending you two good vibes and wishes.

Thanks, Skye. I don't know if we'll have a baby in 2012, but I know we will have some sort of resolution in 2012... I can't imagine still being in this position of uncertainty another year from now.

I hope your cold clears up soon! It's so crappy to be sick when you're pregnant and can't take anything for it. Roll on Jan. 5!!!!

I HATE christmas pudding Skye, in fact I hate all forms of dried fruit but had a friend visiting from the Middle East last month, all she wanted to do was go to Waitrose and buy up Christmas pudding and mince pies to take home in her suitcase

Talking DHEA I did order some and it will arrive soon, but I have talked myself out of taking it, after doing a bit of research I think it might be too much for me, I haven't had a lot of success with supplements to say the least. The COQ10 seems to be ok though, this is my third month on it.

I used to hate fruitcakes until I had a really good one... I think that's the problem, most of them are just nasty!

I've just started taking CoQ10 in the last week. I thought about the DHEA, but I'm afraid of the side effects, too. Plus the fact that my hormones are all exactly where they're supposed to be, so I don't want to risk the testosterone-like effects of the DHEA.... I know I'm only 2 months from IVF so I won't have the full effect of the CoQ10, but I figured every little bit helps. Judging from my IUI responses, I have no reason to think that I'll be a poor responder, but I for SURE don't want to go through all the stims for IVF without doing everything I can to maximize the odds in my favor....

Praying- I totally undersand what you mean, I don't feel extra Christmasy either! I guess we just feel like something is missing. ((((((hugs)))))))

Hey ladies, I hope you are all doing great!!!!!!!!!

Our house is completely devoid of Christmas decorations, too. It's mostly because our new(ish) cat is in to EVERYTHING, and I'm afraid that if we put up a tree and then left town, we'd come home to utter destruction. But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that part of that decision was just that I don't want to go to the effort of decorating this year - it just doesn't feel worth it. We put up our outside lights because our street does this whole theme thing and we didn't want to be the only Scrooges on the street, but that's all we did.


AFM, (TMI alert), we had sex last night and I had post-coital bleeding again. It totally freaks me out because it's not ordinary for me. When it happened a couple of times in March, they did a pap (which was normal) and a saline sonogram and checked for all sorts of things and nothing showed up, so they basically found no reason for it and said not to worry. And then it didn't happen again until now. It happened once before, but that was about 15 years ago... when I went to the dr about it then I had an abnormal pap, so we followed it closely for a while until my paps went normal again. And then never again until March. WTH?! Does anyone else ever have post-coital bleeding?

**Edit to add a little more info: Yesterday was CD10. AF stopped on CD5, so I don't think it's that. I haven't been using OPKs so I don't know how soon that will be, but it's usually around CD14, so it's a little early for ovulation spotting (which has happened once, about a year ago, so it's also not a normal thing for me).

 

[dodgercpkl]

p.s. Dodger hun, any loss is devastating regardless of how many you have been through. Your positive attitude is great! I am hoping that you get your BFP x

*hugs* Thank you! I'm hoping so too.

Skye - How are things going with you? I'm hoping and praying for everything to go smoothly to birth for you!

Never - I'm still just so excited for you! As with Skye, I'm hoping and praying for a smooth 9 months for you!

Missy - *hugs* I think that's the best way to look at it. I'm praying that you get your baby soon.

Purple, FM, dwrgi, northstar, twinkle and anyone else I missed, big big hugs and lots of I think it would be amazing to see a bunch of us ladies get bfps to start out the new year!

I had another blood test today to see what the levels are at and if they are dropping as they should. It's been about 24 hours since my last spotting, so I *think* my bleeding is done already. I have to admit that I'm interested in seeing the numbers. I took an hpt yesterday just to see if it showed all clear or not yet and it surprised me by being waaay darker then any of my other tests. Combine that with lack of doubling over cramps and bleeding that was heavy but not as heavy as a typical period and I do wonder. Eh well... I'll get the results tomorrow and then we'll see what happens.