TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[dashka]

Lils - we should just pick up the phone and talk girl!

 

[Butterfly67]

LOL at the double cross-posting and the lizard babies

Now I can't remember what else I was going to say

 

[Lady H]

Hello my gorgeous girls, hope you are all well.

I got the SA results, Everything Ok

Count 43 million
Motility 62% 45 % total
Morphology 4%

So she referred me for the next steps which I think will be HSG. Confirmed we don't qualify for IVF which I knew.

She also told me my FSH was 2.8. I worried but apparently a low number is ok?

 

[purplelou]

lils - lizard babies I think I need to go back and read the last few pages more carefully

LadyH - great news about the SA!!!! it ivf qualification based purely on age?? Bah!! good that you now move on and get everything else checked out though!!

Dwrgi - Im lurking to see if there is any news from you chick.

 

[purplelou]

Dashka - it sounds like you are really happy with your clinic, but maybe your doctors bedside manner leaves something to be desired. I guess if he is thourough and you have confidenace in him, then that is the most important thing!! oh and if you ever have someone learning from your doc and it make you uncomfy - I think its very acceptable to ask for no audience!!

Honey, how are you lovely, thinking about you

manu - I know you are probably still having a lurk - big I hope the results are good tomorrow xx

Pad -

Twinks - how is that tooth, was your dentist today?? hope its feeling better xxx

Miriam - how are you feeling lovely?? fingers crossed for you

LilSluz - its good you can walk around barefoot and relieve the pain, ouch!! still not sure abo=out those lizard babies though...

Arsy and Frols, madelaine and DrS - and

Tigerlilly - how are you getting on, im thinking of you and crossing everything for you chick

Owl - Yeah!!!! Try to take it easy during the TWW. ~~~~ FX'd for you!!!

DrHouse - have a fab fab holiday!!

nessaw - I hope when bf dropped the container he didn't spill the sample over the floor???

HTJP,owl, chicken greek porn, fly, bear (in case you are lurking) butterfly, maddy and viccat and everyone Im missing - big loves xxxx

 

[Asryellah]

Lurking around again and checking to see if Dwirgi had any news. I really hope you'll come up with a good plan, and I'm sure you will with the help of your doc and OH

Dash, I saw pics from the concert! Must've been FAB!! I love Coldplay there's always some crazy vibes in the air when you're in concerts and get lots of energy there Good that you got to go to get opinions on how proceed with ttc. Lots of blood though, outch It' good they'll check on the endometriosis as it can be so sneaky. Like no signs really and they cant see it from u/s. My gyn was also asking me a lot about period pains (which i really dont usually have..) and if it hurts driving on bumpy roads before periods etc. So he didn't say anything yet on which way to go Ivf of IUI?

LadyH, good that you got your results, and as far as I know looking pretty good! I dunno lots about FSH just that mine was like 9,7 and it was pretty high and not so good. So your eggies must be prime

Lils - oh I'm sorry about your foot!!!! friday 13th got kicked in really huh? I hope it gets better soon!!! ps. just mailed you today

I'm terrible with all whats going on 'cos not writing anything down as reading, so just sending you summery/babydusty vibes

 

[Dwrgi]

Hi Lils!! we cross posted!!
OH hun - hope that foot gets better... Thank goodness it's summer and you can wear flip-flops.. LOL re: lizard babies.... you are too funny girl Passing your stones to other people after you get your BFP is a very sweet idea!!

Yes - I forgot to say the Coldplay concert last night was AWESOME!! although we couldn't stay for all the encores because had to pick up AD from parent's house and DH has to get up at 3:00am... but it was so great - Confetti, large balls (Balloon type) bouncing around the audience and we had great seats -9th row from the side of the stage.... Their opening band is from London - Marina and the Diamonds - Do you UK ladies know her? She was quite good too!

Marina is Welsh, and that is a fact!!! Fab voice too!! (But, of course, being from Wales!).

 

[Dwrgi]

Lil-I have to say, euk, lizard babies. Ych a fi!!!! Good news that foot is only calcium probs, and that you live in Florida, so it doesn't cause too much of a problem!!!

Dashka-saw the pics, concert looks really cool. Heard an interview with Chris Martin, and he was sooooooo neeedy. I thought 'Ych, not my cup of tea at all' so I pity poor old Gwenny Paltrow (assuming they're still together, after naming their children Apple Tree and Moses Basket, or something like that! ). Sounds like a plan to abandon the other appointment if you trust this guy! Good luck, hun, Axxx

Lady H-great news on SA results. Bet your DH was relieved. So, what's next for you then hun?? Really hope you get that bubba soon! xxxx

Hey Asry, great to see your spoiler! Time goes so fast! How are you? xx

Purps-you are always so thoughtful, you're a true star! xxx

Man-good luck for tomorrow. Really hope you get promising results, Axxx

Butterfly-forgetting things is one of the signs of old age!!!! I'll have to keep an eye on you from now on,

Hello everybody-I'm not even going to attempt to name all you wonderful women, because I'm sure to leave somebody out. Big hugs to you all, Axxx

Scan showed six follicles, ranging from 8mm to 15mm. Womb lining is "superb" triple lining (but it ALWAYS is), at 8.3mm, which suggests oestrogen which suggests eggs. I laid it out to Amanda and explained everything that I have written to you. She is happy to go with what we want to do. As I was leaning towards IUI, she was more than happy to do that with a 10% chance at the clinic with women over 40 (not huge, but that's the reality, isn't it?). Too big a risk to throw 4K at the cycle. Also, she has not managed to source any pregnyl, and doubts whether she'll ever be able to get this in the UK in the future. Everybody seems to be going for ovitrel, which made me feel a sense of doom, as I am convinced this is what caused our problems last summer.

She gave an overview of the donor egg route: Russian eggs at the clinic, anonymous Spanish eggs at the IVI Valencia clinic they have a partnership with, or donor egg sharing at the clinic. All have the same success rate at around 65%. First two costs about £8K and last one costs £6K.

She even suggested that we stop the drugs and try again with my own eggs another month, and see if we get a better result, considering how many follicles I had last summer and in March......

Ho hum.. so what to do? She advised to scan again on Friday, keep taking the drugs and then see how I feel. I like this, as I just can't rush it. So that's where we're at.

I don't know if I'll be able to face another OE cycle, considering having three "strong" and "beautiful" embies transferred in March which didn't implant, last summer's disaster and this summer's low yield. And, as Amanda pointed out when I asked her, at my age I face a 1 in 3 chance of miscarriage anyway. So, not a lot of promise there. (I hope I haven't upset anybody writing this statistic).

And, for the record, the Evil Biatch from Hell is STILL IN MY HOUSE rent free. I even found a pack of fags when I went there today. OMG, on top of everything else, she is a blinking smoker....... OH went ballistic, but I said that we WILL get her out, it just might take us longer than is ideal, but her time at the house is limited. She makes me so mad I could scream, but I have other things to worry about

Thanks for thinking about me girls, you are all truly fantastic!!

 

[chickenchaser]

Hi Lovely ladies:wave:

Lils, Every women should have a moonstone. Romans believed the stone formed from moonlight. Ancient Hindu beliefs said that moonstone formed from tiny parts of moonbeams. Arabian women, in tune with the feminine and fertile aspects of moonstone, would sew moonstone into their robes to be blessed with many children.
Like the moon, moonstone is a symbol of feminine energy. The meaning of moonstone is for the balance of emotions: balancing, calming, and healing. It helps the wearer bring their emotions under control. It helps balance the yin and yang.
Like the moon, the meaning of moonstone is about cycles. For example, moonstone jewelry is helpful during a woman’s menstrual cycle. As with the moon, moonstone symbolizes rebirth and new beginnings.
I have never seen Boji stones they sound so cute
I would love to charge my crystals at Stonehenge, what an amazing power. I usually use sunlight/moonlight depending on the crystal. I'm off to the Barefoot Festival this weekend so hoping to get some nice new crystals there plus the energy is going to be amazing, so I'm so excited.

Dr H - Enjoy Bangkok, A fantastic place I was there 2 years ago.

dashka - wanted to send you

Purple - for you too.

Dr S - How are you feeling honey?

Dwrgi - I have no idea what you are going through right now, but hang in there and listen to your heart it will tell you what you need to do. Extra big for you.

Pad - Hang onto the little bag I have faith it will bring you your little girl. Also read my message to Lils, you may find moonstone a help.

froliky- How are you feeling hun, I'm loving you spoiler. You asked what is the next step? You know the answer to that as much as I do. We had such a lovely holiday and have the real post holiday blues. DH is talking about going back next year but as we stayed in an adults only hotel....... Well I guess we will have to see. But thanks for asking

Lady H -

AFM - I really don't know what to think I'm 10 DPO today and I just feel different but can't say how. But I'm not convinced that I ov as I had no symptoms of that either and because we were on holiday the aircon messed up my temps so that hasn't showed Ov either. AF is due at the weekend and I'm at the festival so I guess if she doesn't show by sunday night I will be testing on monday. FX.

I will keep you all posted Love to all

 

[drsquid]

chicken- im ok. not too sick today... scanned yesterday and saw a small bleed so i knew id spot today but... still wasnt to thrilled to see it. fingers crossed for you... i had no clue either way during my tww... none what so ever. take that for what you want

 

[purplelou]

chicken - hopefully thats a GOOD sign that are feeling "different", Ill keep everything crossed for you xxx


Dwrgi - it sounds like, apart from not being able to get preganyl , that is was a positive consultation with your doc. its great that you have time to make a decision and not have to rush into it! it sounds like you are really open to going with DE - although I am hoping you don't need to because you are in that 10% of people for who IUI works (It has to be someone right??!) if you decide to go ahead with that.
is dh helping with the decision now??
big loves to you chick xxxx

DrS

Spoiler

wow - amazing scan pic - thank you for sharing. how are you feeling now with the "twin news" ?? has it sunk in, and have you told people, is your family jumping for joy??

 

[purplelou]

and to all the other lovely ladies here - huge I hope you are all having a good day! and in exciting news - the weekend is nearly here

 

[Maddy40]

Hello my gorgeous girls, hope you are all well.

I got the SA results, Everything Ok

Count 43 million
Motility 62% 45 % total
Morphology 4%

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Wowa, great swimmer numbers Lady H! Wish my DH had something near that...

 

[dashka]

Hi Lils!! we cross posted!!
OH hun - hope that foot gets better... Thank goodness it's summer and you can wear flip-flops.. LOL re: lizard babies.... you are too funny girl Passing your stones to other people after you get your BFP is a very sweet idea!!

Yes - I forgot to say the Coldplay concert last night was AWESOME!! although we couldn't stay for all the encores because had to pick up AD from parent's house and DH has to get up at 3:00am... but it was so great - Confetti, large balls (Balloon type) bouncing around the audience and we had great seats -9th row from the side of the stage.... Their opening band is from London - Marina and the Diamonds - Do you UK ladies know her? She was quite good too!

Marina is Welsh, and that is a fact!!! Fab voice too!! (But, of course, being from Wales!).

oh really ?? that is cool! She just said she is from London when she spoke to the crowd.... Yes she has a great voice! We were so close to the speakers though that sometimes a combination of her high pitch and hard drums was a bit hard to listen to - but once Coldplay came on there was no problem!

 

[dashka]

Hi Ladies!
going by memory so hope I don't forget any details.... Not much time as AD is sitting beside me wanting to type on computer... and she just pooped her diaper! (yes still in pull-ups at 3.5 yrs.... )

Dwrgi - I 2nd what Purple said.... It's good that you can wait until Fri to make your decision.... I really hope you are in that 10% too for IUI.... - you just never know!! It sounds like you are really open to DE so glad that you are researching that too... You are one Strong WOMAN! That tenant is a piece of s&$t!!!!! what the heck is wrong with people!!! ?????
GOOD LUCK DWRGI!!!

Lady H - glad your DH's SA was good!!!! and your FSH way really low! Was that a Day 3 FSH too?? wow if so, really good.

sorry gotta finish later..... as the smell of poop is too much - must go change her.....

 

[dashka]

okay - poop all cleaned up....

Dr S - love the spoiler! so cute....

Chicken - hope the different feeling is a good sign and maybe being on holiday did some magic???

Asry - nice to hear from you! hope you are having a great holiday!

Dwrgi - re: Chris Martin - I have to say I have a huge crush on him - there is just something I like about him -find him (boyish) adorable really I am jealous of Gwyneth!

Gotta run - hope everyone has a great day....

 

[LilSluz]

Dash – So glad you had so much fun at ColdPlay! Eek, poo! Is it just #2 she has an issue with or both? Perhaps one day we’ll all get to experience how much fun that is! (wishing they had a good poo icon…)

LadyH - for SA results! So, I’m just wondering – why could they not test you & DH at the same time? Can’t really give you my “normal” scale for FSH bc I’m not sure they use the same scale in US v UK Also, I think each lab uses a different scale for what’s normal – just to complicate things a little more! Glad you are getting HSG though & hope they get you in really soon!

Purps – I feel so bad that you have no A/C , how hot is it there? You can’t get overheated in your condition! So, no on the lizard babies? I bet you’re picturing V baby, aren’t you my fellow Sci-girl Hey, a girl gets desperate at times…

Asry – can’t wait til Aug. Hope you are enjoying your vacay!

Dwrgi – Don’t think I don’t know what “Ych a fi” means, little lady! Trying that secret-Welsh stuff on me, I got Google & I’ll use it! This is actually from Urbandictionary.com (love this site!) but I know it differs from "Ew, Yuck" etc.: Ych-a-fi, someone's let their dog take a dump on the doorstep! Sounds like you need to Ych-a-fi your tenant!

Wow, so a 6th showed up?! I didn’t realize you keep going back for scans & that more could show up so quickly! I’m sorry about the meds – so there’s only one other kind? Yes, definitely take it 1 step at a time & Fri should give you your answer . Whether you do IMSI, IUI or au naturale, I am hoping & praying with everything that more show up! And don’t you even think of counting yourself out this cycle! Sounds like Amanda is a great nurse & understands where you are coming from. I understand being against the odds. I am in the lucky 1% that has 3+ mc’s, so my odds, coupled with my age, are not so good . But, ef it, we only live once, so we have to try to beat those odds the best we can, right?

Chicken – Oh, thank you for all that info on the moonstone! I’m going to have to go crystal shopping very soon, now! You have fun at the Barefoot Festival (looks pretty cool – I googled) & hopefully you’ll have a happy surprise when you get back! Maybe you o’d during that non-temping period – somewhere between CD14-17? I’ll be testing this weekend or Monday sometime I think too – so GL & !!!

DrS –

Spoiler

Oh wow, that scan is so awesome! I’ve always “said” I wanted twins, but I’ll just settle for 1 at this point! So happy for you

everybody else! Just popping in, but hope you are all doing fab


AFM – I have been feeling really good & I have had incredible energy the last 2 days – the positive energy kind (not the get up & go kind). Not sure if some planets are aligning or what’s going on but I’ll take it! But, of course during this 2WW there’s been this little voice in the back of my mind that gets me just a teeny bit freaked out about the possibility of another BFP-mc. But I’m not worrying about it now. And if I get a chance at another cycle I am gonna look into vitex to shorten my cycles. They aren’t terrible, but definitely not optimal for RMC’rs (optimal = CD12-16; mine are CD19-21 ). Also if anyone has too short of cycles, check this out (it’s not just about mc, but infertility too):

https://sites.google.com/site/misca...e-and-miscarriage/normalizing-menstrual-cycle

Never seen so many actual, unbiased, no-agenda medical studies compiled in one website – love it!

 

[Butterfly67]

Wow that link is really interesting lils, sod's law that my FP has increased in the last 2 months to 13 days which I think would give me a better chance of a BFP

Dwrg, how you doing hon?

 

[SloanPet77]

Hello!

I just started posting yesterday, I will fill you in quickly on my story:
DH and I were married October 15, 2011. We had planned to start trying this coming October 2012, so in preparation I stopped takin gBC and started prenatals. We are trying natural route. So i have bben off the pill since July 1, 2012, and i have not charted or anything at this point. According to the oculation calculator my fertile window was July 19-24th however; i swear I felt ovulation pains around the 17-18th?. So my DH and I both had too many cocktails on Firday the 20th, and BD unprotected. Could i be pregnant or did I miss my winodw? This is pretty new to me! I will be 35 in 5 days and DH is 37, this would be our first.

thanks!!!!

 

[LilSluz]

BF - I just posted in your journal . Glad you liked it, I was really impressed by the vast amount of studies. Really, NOW it lengthens to 13 days?! That's perfect, too. They had tons of studies in there about shorter cycles, age-related factors, mc & infertility. Oh, BF that is sod's law!