TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[Butterfly67]

On the train on way to the Olympic park so will make this short

Dwrgi great news on the swimmers and at needle and tractor

HTJ I am so sorry for your loss

2have4 welcome

4ever welcome back and well done

Everyone else hi gonna hit send before I lose signal ...

 

[owl35]

dwrgi - I'm glad everything went well this morning. Welcome to the 2ww. After my IUI I pretty much slept or stayed on the couch for the entire weekend. I guess I was more stressed out over the whole thing than I admitted. I was very exhausted. The IUI procedure shouldn't make you tired but I was really wiped. RE told us to "do it" one more time the day after IUI so we we got that over with (since you are looking for something to do, you might want to do that hehe). I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Honeybee, I'm sorry you are having such a hard time with your boyfriend. I do agree with dwrgi though, sometimes it's good to put an ultimatum in place because some people get too comfortable in the "not having to commit" situation and it's easy to take advantage of that. And unfortunately, our time is ticking

afm, I have a confession to make. I did it again!!! Somebody should just beat me over the head with a stick. I just can't stay away from those pee sticks. So today is 9dpiui and I couldn't help myself but to POAS this morning. Well, trigger must be out for sure because I stared at a single pink line which also means, that I'm not pregnant. I know this is early to test but I also felt some AF cramps this morning so I'm already beginning to loose hope again. I wish I wasn't so addicted to those sticks. I told myself I wouldn't test out the trigger this time but I swear those things develop a life of their own. Out of the sudden this stick was in my hand and whispered "use me". How evil

 

[grkprn]

Hit The Jackpot - I am so sorry for your loss. Sending you big hugs and wishing you peace and comfort in the coming days.

 

[Dwrgi]

Oh Owl, I just hope that it is too early to test, . Don't give up until AF arrives. FX it's just too early to tell! Thanks for your advice. I am on the sofa and I ain't moving!!!

Butterfly-enjoy your trip!

 

[purplelou]

Owl - you are naughty!!! definetly too early to test hun! step away from those sticks!! don't listen to them when they whisper to you

big

 

[purplelou]

Oh I sooo agree-Paul Macca! Gross. And who is he trying to kid with that ridiculous colour hair? He also (real biatch fest now) looks more like his waxwork model than he does a real man!!!!!!

exactly - my dad said "is he melting or something" lol!

 

[LilSluz]

HTJ – OMG, I am so, so sorry about your mom, how tragic!!! . I lost my mom suddenly when she was 51, so I know the utter shock & horror it all brings & it is the worst feeling – especially when its your "mommy" - the one that always nourished you & would do anything in the world for you… My condolences to you & your family. I am sending big up to you...

 

[nessaw]

hi all.back from a lovely sunny week in devon.my 11yr old niece has turned into something out of kevin and perry!!

owl sorry about test.fingers crossed its too early.

htj-so sorry about ur loss.

dwrgi-best of luck with ur iui.

purps-i also got back in touch with my boyf via facebook and emailed for a while before meeting up.

am off for my cd21 prog test tom.hopefully it will show ovulation.

question-how long after sperm analysis can you get the results?boyf went last tues.

hello to every one i've missed.am pants at remembering-sorry.

off to watch some more olympics-loving it!

vx

 

[LilSluz]

Ladies, thank you all for your input in IUI vs IVF!

Dwrgi – Ohhhh, fingers crossed & lots of coming your way & cwtches… Thanks so much for all of the info! It sounds like the main difference is the risk of multiples if you don’t have a sperm-meets-egg issue… Hmmmm…. I know your hope may be a little bit diminished, but I am keeping it alive for you & you have great chances this cycle! And yes, I have heard its best to before & after IUI. And now especially w/OH’s SA?!?! What have you been feeding that man?! Watch you come out of this with twins or something! (PS- loved the story about meeting OH & the - I can SO see you doing that! )

Forever young – welcome back & congrats on the new healthy status & weight loss!

2have4kids – welcome to our humble thread. I hope your stay here is short.

Twinks – I must have missed something really juicy if you are going around tasering people!!! That sounds like loads of fun! I’ll have to pop over to the journal…

DrH – hope you are having fun!

Pad – how’s the move going?

LadyH – Sending loads of !!!

Owl – you too - I am 13DPO - OK, just saw the update: "Ma'am, please walk away from the POAS w/your hands up!" Way too early

Mirium – I love that you are calm about things now . It’s a wonderful feeling that you can actually be peaceful no matter what life throws at you. It’s a tough one to achieve, but I am striving for that, as well. Yeah, see w/the IVF vs IUI question, if I don’t have issues w/sperm-meeting-egg, then I am either looking at unexplained implantation failure or just plain old eggs. Why would I spend $15,000 on IVF vs. $800 on IUI if the only risk is multiples, which is probably not that high of a risk for me? I would still get the drugs that produce a bunch of eggs so worst comes to worst I have twins (or more), but I highly doubt that’s much of a risk for someone with lowish AMH… And if I had twins, well then, instant family – I can deal w/that. I’ll put away the $14,200 in an interest-bearing account to help pay for the nanny I might need! (that's the accounting geek coming out; I'll try to reign it back in-lol) That’s my thinking, as flawed as it may be… I hope you don’t even have to entertain it, but if you do let me know… Do you or wait for AF?

Dash – I really don’t like how she hits you when you are crying, I have to say. Its almost like she is rebelling against something by hitting, holding pee, refusal to potty train, but what? Maybe just an initial therapy session or 2 would help give you feedback or an explanation? Can’t hurt right? Hope your first day back isn’t too horrific!

Purps – glad you had a nice visit w/your dad He so deserves Chinese & anything else he likes after what is has been thru & still facing. Love the story about you & DH! I’m impressed by your Olympic-watching skills! All I’ve caught so far are the floor gymnastic routines – is it me or do most of those girls in particular always look seriously pissed off or prissy or both?

everyone else! Big & to all of you!

AFM – very disappointed as I tested & got BFN at 13DPO. The thing is that I wouldn’t be so down but my chart went exactly as both of my other pregnancy months – which is drastically different from non-pregs months (I know, dashka you noticed it too!). And I know that something was trying to happen after being pregs so many times now I can feel it. This concerns me. And the crinone has side effects have been messing w/my body so much & tricking me & I pretty much hate that stuff. I can’t tell you what’s going on in my body – my temps would drop drastically (96.5) & then 3 hrs later be 99.6 – WTF? This happened almost every day?! And I knew it bc I’d start freezing or start feeling overheated & my house temp is always the same. I am OK, as I cried it out during my power-walk this morning & then had a talk w/DH. He is going to think about IUI & IVF today he said. I have to get him in to do his repeat SA too & then go get all of my newest test results from that IVF place.

PLEASE somebody get a BFP to cheer me up???

 

[grkprn]

Just need to let this out...

I'm turning 39 next Sunday, AF (I hope not) is due this week and I need some positive vibes sent my way! I used to LOVE birthdays, but since we started TTC, birthdays aren't as cool

I'm 9 DPO, had dull cramping all day yesterday (no spotting), so I'm just keeping my fingers crossed. But I never know if it's uterine or intestinal cramping!

I DO love the Olympics though! I really enjoyed the opening ceremonies - I agree, Paul didn't sound his best!

I hope everyone had a wonderful weekend and sending lots and lots of

 

[Dwrgi]

Lils-am so sorry that it was a BFN, big coming your way. Do you think that the temp irregularities are side effects of the intralipids? IDK as I've never had them, but is it a possibility? What is crinone, have I missed something????

If you have no issues with fertilization, then I think that IUI is a good option. Most clinics will suggest three IUIs before moving on to IVF/ICSI if it is required, as it is less invasive. Drugs are similar (although you might be stimmed more with IVF as the more eggs the more chance of success, and with IUI they try to keep numbers low to prevent multiples). Might be worth a go, just to see how you get on.

Sorry you had a bit of a cry, but often good to get it out of your system-I'm also glad that DH is on board re AC (not the air con kind ). That's really good news

My OH has been using Wellman Conception since last summer-I think they have a comparable product in the States, and I've read on here some amazing results with it. Can't harm, right?

Twinks's reference to tasars is to do with "hostile" CM, and word associations of hostile! Good idea to get DH's second SA-you need to leave no stone unturned! I like the accountant thinking re. nanny!!!

Personally, those gymnasts look like they have a rod up their pooper (your word which I love!!!)!!

Thanks for the cwtches and luck-coming right back atcha!!! (And what do you MEAN that you can see me throwing the glass of wine away?????

Anyway, big for being you,
Axxxxxxx

GrkPrn-come on, PMA-what have you got to lose with glass half full rather than glass half empty thinking??? You're almost there, why can't it be your month??? Go girl, expect a miracle, and the best birthday pressie ever!!!

Ness-glad you had good time in Devon. Good to get away! I think my OH's SA took a couple of weeks to come back, NHS paced. Hope they're on their way to you. Also good luck with day 21 test tomorrow. FX for you that you're ovulating. Big

 

[owl35]

grkprn, sending and positives vibes your way!

Lil, oh I'm so sorry about bfn this morning. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for you though. It's not over till it's over

 

[purplelou]

Nessaw - another internet dater!! fab! ladyH's dh went for SA recently - I think they had the results the next week (and they are in the UK too) hope that helps

Lils - oh bugger!! so sorry about the bfn I hope dh and you can make a plan for iui/ivf!!

GreekPorn - I hope you don't even have to worry about AF!! but I would say 39 on sunday is only one day older that 38 on saturday (if you see what I mean) it doesn't mean that body starts to give up and shut down!! and certainly your eggs don't just doze off. try not to woory too much (if it helps I got my bfp and sticky when I was 39 - now Im 40!) big loves chick xxx

 

[grkprn]

Thanks purple, owl and dwrgi! Eh - I was feeling low this morning...maybe it's the hormones...

Had another pregnancy announcement from a co-worker this morning also (the second in as many months)! Thanks for listening!

 

[Mirium]

Hi ladies,

Dwrgi - do your best to maximise the cycle. Treat your DH to some TLC, whatever you need to do to get in the mood and DTD at least once again today. That way, you will have no regrets. Don't eat too much meat and protein now. I've read 3 articles (the last one was the one that Lils posted) that advise that too much protein is not good just before and after conception. Another 'Livestrong' article indicated that too much meat creates ammonia in the body that's not good for implantation. I don't know how much it's worth but after running into 3 different articles - I thought I had nothing to lose by listening.

GrkPrn - I know we've had some tough luck but I have read of women on online forums - 1 who had a baby at 38 and another at 40, and another who had a baby at 39 and one at 41, and another who had a baby at 40 and one at 42 so that's women who was able to have 2 kids each after age 38. I don't recall if IVF was involved, might not have been, I don't recall. One of the nurses at my doc's office told me that a few years ago, they had a 50 year old woman who got pregnant and delivered at age 51. It just happened, she was not trying to get pregnant. I also know another 50 year old - personally who got pregnant and delivered at 51. The last 2 examples were not even to try to give you hope. They were just scenarios that I know of...things in life can be so random considering that I lost my babies at age 36 & 37. All the best Grkprn!!

Lils - I am so sorry about BFN !! Hopefully that makes you feel better - at least, you got pregnant recently, so you know that your inner pipes.. are working. IUI sounds like a great next step!! I usually test on day 13 or 14. Today is day 13 but I think I am waiting for tomorrow just because today is Monday and that's enough of a jolt (you know 'Manic Monday'). I can deal with a BFN better on a Tuesday - oh boy, the things we have to deal with. I also don't feel anything that makes me feel like I am pregnant. Big to you Lils!!

Owl - Fingers crossed for you.

Dashka - All the best with AD. Of course, therapy is always wise/can't hurt. She is in a loving household so that's a big plus. I have a cousin who was so mean when he was young and he grew up to be so sweet so you never know.

Purple - hello dear!

I ran out of time - it's time for me to start work so hello to all you lovely ladies!!

Have a great day ladies!!

 

[LilSluz]

Thanks ladies. I shall march on... not bc I'm strong but bc that's really all there is to do!

Porn - Getting older sux even worse when TTC. But like Purps said, when you turn 39, all is not gonna change overnight. I am hoping you get the best bday present in the world!

Dwrgi - no I don't think the intralipids could have done that as all that really consists of are egg yolks & soy, etc. - a fat emulsion cocktail - often given to those who cannot eat (+ they add some nutritional stuff for the bed-ridden). I am wondering if blood thinners are making temps drop too, but then i would have had unusually low temps pre-ov. It feels like when I introduced the Crinone (progest supp's) an all-out war ensued between estro & progest or something? Or perhaps I just had a weird estro-dominant cycle that nothing to do with anything but part of the aging process. Argh, who knows. It doesn't help I'm on 3.5 hrs sleep, got a BFN & it's Monday - being triple-whammied here! (I just couldn't sleep - was having major anxiety & it took 4 Tyl Pm's to knock me out ). Thanks for the Wellman info. Sounds like a superhero -just put a little cape on a ...

Anyway, thanks for the ladies.

 

[LilSluz]

Mirium -we cross-posted. Smart girl - not only is it Monday but who tests on "13" DPO? (me ) So we're on exact same schedules! I am hoping you get your BFP!!! Did you get preg symptoms this early with your last 2?

&

 

[Honeybee73]

Just to let you all know, I'm in process of deleting all post and waiting for a new user name. If they don't change it I'll start up with new account. You will know its me cause my new name is one dwrgi calls me.
Unfortunately, I've discovered everything we say can be seen by everyone and had someone has found my name and been passing all info on. Now I dont mind sharing with you guys but this is my business and I don't wish people I don't know knowing about my cm, AF, oh etc. It's very upsetting.
Also oh is very private and will go ape if this traces to us at moment :0(

 

[chickenchaser]

Hi Ladies Just a quick one,

HTJ - I am so sorry honey, look after yourself and your family. 62 is far to young XXX

Lils - So Sorry about your BFN, Still no sign of AF for me but I'm to scared to test.

Dwrgi - Keeping everything crossed for you XXX

 

[4everyoung]

HTJP--I am so sorry to hear of your loss. Love to you & your heart.