TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[emily405]

LilSluz, thanks for saying that I'm not old. I keep reading things about advanced maternal age and geriatric pregnancy, and since everyone I know who is my age has two or three kids and is done at this point and the only ones still going are considerably younger, I feel old. My friends are mostly my age to a decade older, so the ones with kids have kids who are teens and older. I figure that when I have the baby and make friends, they are going to be considerably younger. That will be strange to be to be the oldest one when I'm accustomed to being on the younger side in most groups. Though at 38 that is changing - I'm no longer the young one at work any more, so I am growing accustomed to having younger people around.

Also, thanks for the info about supplements. I've just been on a prenatal vitamin and a little bit of extra folic acid.

I have a question about BBT. My CBFM said peak on day 12, so I expected O was day 13 and that I'd have a temperature rise on day 15, which was yesterday. I am a terrible sleeper and wake up many times during the night. So the first time I woke up yesterday I took my temperature and was disappointed as it was only 97.2, lower than the day before. But when I was ready to actually get up, it was up to 97.9. So I figured ok, maybe I finally got the real rise. After all, it was only day 13, the day I expected the rise. But the same thing happened again this morning! 97.2 at about 5 am when the cat started walking on me and I took it in case I did give in and get up, 97.9 a couple hours later when it really was time to get up. I don't know what to put down for this morning's temperature. The lower one, or the higher one? That's a pretty significant difference. I took it twice each time to make sure.

 

[nessaw]

Lils re fert appt.when i went before with positive pg the consultant said first thing wd be hsg (is that the dye test one?).clearly a preg puts to bed any huge issues with ov and sperm motility but it cd be down to quality.

Knowing what i know now aboit cycles tests progesterone etc i have just looked at my cd 21 tests with fresh eyes.

The first was the lowest @ 5 (can't remember the unit but 30 is deemed normal for ov) but it was on cd 22 of a 24 day cycle.a point i did raise with the gp at the time.the second and 3rd were cd 22 + 21 of 29 and 26 day cycle respectfully.these both had 11 days btwn ov (on opk) and test whereas the first had 13 (the test presuming a 7 day gap).

My conclusion is that the first one is irrelevant.the other 2 coupled with u/s showing ov on d13 and an pregnancy lead me to think i ov early.the conception indicator showed ov before cd 12 on m preg cycle.

Long story short i think i want to ask for cd3 tests to see if that gives anymore info.also another sa to c if any improvement-have had bf on wellman since the first sa. I presume clomid for a cpuple of cycles and iui if the spermies dont start behaving.however having bought the cbfm i wouldnt mind trying it out for a couple of cycles before anything else.

Bet you wish u hadnt asked
after that long winded reply!! I just sat down and explained it to boyf who looked dazed and confused!!

Hi to everyone and sorry for boring you too!

 

[Lady H]

Emily always put the first temp down. You need the first temp taken after 3 hours straight sleep, guessing it was less once you got up later? I used to temp and used CBFM with opks (all bases covered)! Ovulation can happen up to 48 hours after CBFM peaks. I used the OPKs with it to double check for surge. I'll confess to being a chart stalker along with some others here so if you ever share I'll be on it if you need help! Xx

 

[onmymind17]

Afm -

Spoiler

Called high-risk OBGYN today & he wants me in WAY before OBGYN was even going to refer me, I mean GOD..bless...us..all . (thank God hematologist said get in there before 9 wks) I'm so glad I am type A & pushy sometimes, jeez! (sometimes ) OB was going to refer me at 9 weeks only for the 12-wk nuchal thingy, even after I told him of all my issues & concerns, he was there for all my mc's & knows my probs - ?. I mean, WTF I may not make at that far w/blood issues, gene mutations, hormone failures (I totally would have lost this one w/o Rx progesterone) & etc. you dumb-a$$ that's the whole freakin point?!

So, upside is that my ranting is getting me a much-needed 2-3 hour appt w/High-Risk OBGYN next Wed. 1/9 (8 wks if I make it!). Getting "very detailed u/s" (hmmmm?), genetic counseling, and probs some testing & consult & whatever else. I feel MUCH better about this, now. Advice: take charge & be responsible for yourself bc no one else is going to do that for you & only you know your own body & feelings...listen to them!

Oh yeah for you being type A there is nothing worse than stupid doctors!!! So happy for you!!

 

[onmymind17]

So ladies, first of all Happy New Year to you all, i am praying that all of you get a wonderful happy surprise this year!!

Second AF finally showed for me on Dec 27th, that is the longest i have ever gone, from Oct 9th to Dec 27th and let me tell you that was the AF from HELL!! Man she really could have just stayed away lol. I still have not used the gel for the inflamation, i wanted to have a little fun with my honey pie on Christmas, and then AF showed up, so i had to wait, but i guess i will use it now that she has finally left the building, geeze, i dont want to have another AF like that, the cramps were horrible on Friday, and omg, it was like the flood gates openend up.

Welcome to the new ladies, you wont find a better bunch of loving compassionate women than you will here.

 

[nessaw]

Rdkmommy on my pg cycle my symptoms were the same as pre af.the only diff being the sore boobs lasted longer than 1 day so after 4 days of soreness i tested.

Carole glad to hear all is well.

Lils brilliant news about being seen so quickly.

Omm sorry about that awful af.hope ur treatment works quickly and u can get back down to it soon!

Emily i havent charted but from everything i've read on here about it i agree with lady h its the first temp u put.

Afm cd 17 still a faint line on opk.nothing else to report other than a stinking cold.blah!

 

[LilSluz]

Emily - yeah, I agree w/LadyH - you have to take the one where you got the most uninterrupted sleep (pref 3-4+ hrs), so 5am is fine. Hopefully will Ov by tomorrow!? I often didn't Ov until 2 days after the surge. If donor could cooperate, sounds like tonight would be a good time??? GL

Ness - HSG & Day3 FSH/AMH/Estradiol/LH/TSH/etc. are always good things to get tested - especially if you already have a Dr. appt lined up. You can clearly get pregs, but you are right - it could be a quality thing, so why not if you have the appt already set up? Although one thing I had heard is that - not sure if true - not too many people who get a B.O. ever get them again. Not sure how that works but I'm guessing its along the lines of what they say when its "just a chromosomal thing" - not likely to happen again. (only the lucky 1% have to deal w/3+ mc's, so you shouldn't worry about those things at this time, of course). GL

Thanks OMM! I swear sometimes... Not all Dr's of course, its just some that are either too busy, just aren't quite getting it, or some that just ignore you or your other Dr.'s' recommendations. But, then every so often you have wonderful Dr's who come along & are complete dolls, listen to you & explain things. Just wishing they were "mostly" like that. (like our lovely DrH, of course! ) Where are you at w/everything?

 

[LilSluz]

OMM - nevermind, we cross-posted! Sounds like an awful & glad she's gone! So, are you officially TTC again, or - ?

 

[emily405]

Well, now I'm really confused. It's too late for ovulation. My cycles are always 27-28 days with an occasional 25. It's day 16, which means AF in 11-12 days, so there's no way I could still ovulate. I'm pretty sure it's always two weeks after ovulation. No use inseminating now. I either caught it or missed it. I inseminated on CD9 and CD11 looking for O anywhere between 11-14 (was willing to inseminate again on CD13 if necessary but it didn't seem like it was when I got the peak on CD12, and 12 wasn't a possibility). I am wondering if I am ovulating at all if I'm not having much of a temperature rise after first waking. I am not getting more than three hours at any stretch at all. For what it's worth, the 97.2 is above what it was on CD11 and 12 (I didn't chart this month until day 11) when my temps were 96.4 and 96.8. My chart is really messed up, though, as FF thinks I am on day 42 of my cycle, not day 16 since I temped in October and November and didn't until a few days ago. So there's really no good data at this point. I only started temping this week to try to verify when I ovulated, but now I'm not sure if I did or not. This is not pleasing me, of course.

 

[drhouse]

Hiya ladies, How are you all? I've been sans computer iPad only which I can't stand typing on. I'd far rather be at home in our bed, but after two weeks of the inlaws and my folks, now that we are heading home to normality, it's almost a bit sad!

Emily, you sound like you got it! You will see though! I've just been reading an article about a donor to a lesbian couple being chased for child support, have you sorted out these sorts of details? Good luck! I think there is also a same sex parenting area on bnb and there's a great chick hitting the jackpot whose been a bit quiet after some family things, who it would be great for you to talk too!

Ness I agree with you, the day 22 test a waste of time. How long have you been trying for now and how many positives have you had? I'd be inclined to stay test less, shag more for a while longer but I can't remember the details for each and everyone of us!

Lils I am so pleased you were the squeaky wheel. You are complex hun, and you deserve to see the high risk man! Don't forget the start keeping uss, tests, letters et al from each specialist in a big clear page folder, you will know more about your health soon than most non specialists! Doctors often don't say, I don't know, let me find out which drives me bananas! You are the best advocate for your own health, read widely and I will always help if I can...... He he he!

Omm sorry af showed.

Lady very excited to hear your belly is dancing! Pad good to see you back. Carole once a 35+ ttc no 1 - lifetime membership is guaranteed so I hear!

Dwrgi happy new cider year to you chick.

Mirium hugs and best wishes from here!

Dash thinking of you and your bil grrr.........

Big hugs from the antipodes. Nuchal Friday.... Bring it on. I look like a whale. There's no way that I can keep this hidden. Big bugger.

 

[LilSluz]

Ness - I also say DEFO throw out the 1st CD22 test you mentioned. Forgot that part...

DrH - GL hun - I am sure it will be perfect!!! I have every copy of every test,. wouldn;t you know? LOL. But it is sorta in folders in a bag at the mo & I should get more organized - good idea! I was even thinking of drafting a Word file with a summary of my history on there so that I can just attach it to those damn applications we have to do for every new Dr . (And that they ask you in person anyway after you just took 20+ mins to write it down - lol) Big lovely!

 

[LilSluz]

Emily - go back to the date of your first period & just enter the period (H/M/L) under the Menses/Spotting part. It will start you a whole new chart with your current month info in there. And we can always look at it if you want...

 

[onmymind17]

Emily - yeah, I agree w/LadyH - you have to take the one where you got the most uninterrupted sleep (pref 3-4+ hrs), so 5am is fine. Hopefully will Ov by tomorrow!? I often didn't Ov until 2 days after the surge. If donor could cooperate, sounds like tonight would be a good time??? GL

Ness - HSG & Day3 FSH/AMH/Estradiol/LH/TSH/etc. are always good things to get tested - especially if you already have a Dr. appt lined up. You can clearly get pregs, but you are right - it could be a quality thing, so why not if you have the appt already set up? Although one thing I had heard is that - not sure if true - not too many people who get a B.O. ever get them again. Not sure how that works but I'm guessing its along the lines of what they say when its "just a chromosomal thing" - not likely to happen again. (only the lucky 1% have to deal w/3+ mc's, so you shouldn't worry about those things at this time, of course). GL

Thanks OMM! I swear sometimes... Not all Dr's of course, its just some that are either too busy, just aren't quite getting it, or some that just ignore you or your other Dr.'s' recommendations. But, then every so often you have wonderful Dr's who come along & are complete dolls, listen to you & explain things. Just wishing they were "mostly" like that. (like our lovely DrH, of course! ) Where are you at w/everything?

Yes thankfully there are some good doctors out there, my OB was like that, i am so sad that he just retired, i can still go to the same practice but now i will have to see the other doctor . As for where i am at, we have just totaly given up on TTC, and have now moved on, we are planning vacations, and camping trips. I have to say that i am happy, its nice not having to worry about it, and if something happens thats fine too, but i will be 46 this year, and i honestly dont see anything happening, after losing 6 little ones one after the other, i dont see that one will suddenly stick, but i am fine with it, i have made my peace with it and realize that there is so much more out there. I am so excited for you, and thanks for asking about me

 

[LilSluz]

Thanks OMM & sending you . Adventurous trips sound like the perfect remedy - go & see the world because so many people can't or just never do (espec all North Americans!). There's just so much to see out there!

 

[owl35]

Lovely ladies,

Happy new year to all of you and a BFP for everyone

Reporting back from vacation. It was wonderful and I wish I could have spent more time with my family and friends in Germany. London was great as well. Was at Buckingham Palace but nobody from the royal family wanted to see me

I'm back at work already so didn't have time to catch up at all yet, but I hope you are all doing fabulous!

afm - AF should arrive in about 10 days or so and then I'm starting IVF. I'm nervous, scared, excited and anxious all at the same time.

Big hugs and cheers to a happy 2013

 

[purplelou]

Quietly stalking and sending a ton of loves xxxx

I have a good feeling about January ! I am sure there is going to be some good news on this thread!

 

[Maddy40]

Owl...excited for you. 2013 is def your year!

OMM 2013 is your year in a different but exciting way I think. Trips and planning sound great (my fav hobby is planning and taking trips, even if they're just weekends nearby).

Ness testing sounds like a good idea. My dr is always keen to point out they are just a snapshot of one point in time. They shouldn't be looked at independently but need to be repeatedly reasonably often so that you get an overall picture.

Lils not long til your appointment, good on you for pushing for the high risk consult. FX the doc is able to put your mind at ease.

Dr H (aka 'the whale'), are you back at work? Have you had to admit to your colleagues yet that you are UTD or is the "I'm a large fish" conversation going on solely in your head? Good luck Friday.

AFM cycle is stupid, I am exhausted from working through Christmas/New Year and DH is tired too. We're just marking time waiting for AF to arrive so we can get back on the assisted-conception bandwagon. Oh fun fun fun

 

[Greenleaf]

Do cysts and fibroids and endometriosis, etc. go with any pain?

I have a 6.5 x 6.5cm ovarian cyst removed from the right ovary some years ago. Also have another smaller one on the left and a 3cm uterine fibroid. I don't have much pain during AF aside from the usual bloated/sore feeling for the first couple of days. The only indication I got was the pre-AF spotting (6-7 days) and passing of large blood clots. I only found out about the cyst when I felt a lump on my abdomen and went for an U/S scan.

 

[Samsfan]

On my Mind---- thank you for taking the time to respond. I'm going for IUI and then I'll think about IVF. I really appreciate you posting. Glad to be part of this thread.

IAMTRUE---- I am married 3 years, using OPK's for last 6 months. We have really been trying to conceive for a year... prior to OPK's I just charted... We never used any protection for 3 years we have been married. I recently went to FS in beginning of December. I had a sonogram, blood tests, femvue and more blood tests. My AMH is .53. We originally spoke about IUI. FS states success rate on IUI is 10 percent with drugs its 15 percent with IVF it is 40 to 45 percent. I am 38 years of age. We had a lengthy discussion about my profession, lifestyle concerns and he then suggested IVF. I am not a worse case scenario.. but he doesn't suggest waiting to try naturally. He says he doesn't know how much time I have. He really cannot tell. I guess that is why he suggested IVF. He felt strongly about IVF after our conversation.

I also have a friend who had IUI. I feel the same way. I cannot discuss it. I also have another friend, who is very supportive. She has 2 kids from a prior marriage.. She had them young. She was remarried at 38 and she has been through 7 years of IVF without success. She is now 50. She encouraged me to go to FS. She also feels that I should jump into IVF.

I have another blood test, gyn exam and sono scheduled for first week in January. I guess I have to decide by January 7th and we will take it from there. This process takes a while. I probably won't be able to start until Feb if that is the avenue I'm going to take. Don't know if that helps. I saw on another thread about acupuncture. I think in the meantime, I'm going to give that a try.

Totally understand. I'm trying to digest what my fs has advised. He advised I go straight to IVF. I'm debating whether I try IUI first. He said results are at 10 percent with IUI and IVF has a success rate of 40 percent.

Tough dealing with the effects of IVF... I have a lot to think about. Wish it would just happen naturally. Starting to take my temp. Maybe a miracle will happen in January

Just wondering...why did fs advise that you go straight to IVF? You said you're just starting to temp...how had you been determining ovulation before then? I'm temping every morning and using OPK. Despite having it all timed "perfectly" the last few cycles, it didn't take. We are doing home insemination, so I'm sure that is a factor too. For how many cycles have you been ttc? (I apologize if you have already mentioned this.)

I have two friends who struggled with fertility, but I don't feel I can talk to either of them right now for very different reasons. One went through both IUI and IVF. It was an emotionally draining few years for she and her husband, and she is now going on 41 and not sure if they'e going to continue trying. They are also considering adoption. Another friend TTC for five years...was told she had "old eggs" at 33. She went through two rounds of IVF with no luck. They took a break for over a year, and she is now due in January with her first, a baby boy (she will be 37 in April). I am so thrilled for her that I refuse to discuss my TTC struggles. I don't want to dampen her happy moment...she has already been through so much and deserves this.

Hi, I read this and i had to reply, i lurk here mostly lol. I was 41 when i went to see an FS, and he told me i had to do IVF right off the bat, i was like um no, i was pg on my own the november before, well he was not happy about it but i did the IUI, the first one did not work, i truly believe i was so stressed out about the procedure that it did not work, but each one after that worked, unfortunatly we have lost every one of them, but the point is that even at my age the IUI with injectables worked, dont let them push you into IVF they want you to do that so they make the money, your only 38 and i am sorry but any FS that says they dont know how much time you have so you have to do IVF is out for the money no doctor knows how much time you have, but they know where your at right now. I say try a couple IUI's and if they dont work then move on. Good luck, and i am glad you found this bunch of ladies, they are the best, and most supportive around!!

 

[drhouse]

Hi


Spoiler alert so am on phone and don't know how to spoil on a mobile required.


See lady h post!