2013 losses- rainbow baby making thread...

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Lucy- I'm so glad to hear that the babies are doing well! What a blessing to have 2 <3 I hope they see the membrane, but either way it sounds like your in good hands!

Nimyra- I hope you get your scan soon and that it shows a perfectly healthy little one!
 
Congratulations Kasey. I'm so pleased for you. :hugs:a


Lucy, wow twins. What an amazing update. I hope everything continues well. When's your next scan?
 
Nimyra: That's a great sign with the morning sickness!! <3 It means that that baby will not come off that wall and is stuck like glue!! I'm so excited for you about your upcoming scan!! <3 Huge hugs and missing you lots <3

Raggydoll: How are you doing? <3 My next appointment is not until 12 weeks <3 With these types of twins, you start having weekly scans after week 12-14 when those cords and placenta become a messy problem. So instead of feeling better at that 12 week mark, it kind of gets scarier as time goes on with identical monoamniotic twins.

Nimyra: There's so much to consider. I kind of liken it to seeing these amazing cotton candy clouds just before the sky goes dark and there's a big F-5 tornado. That's kind of what I see when I look at my scan---these adorable babies who loooove each other and want to stay close (almost holding hands), but will the outcome be precarious?

I had a weird fascination with twin meiosis while studying biology...I couldn't believe that we still didn't really know why the identical egg splitting fluke happens, except that my age (egg is harder at age 34 and more prone to breaking in half) and my Nigerian friend Sharifah who gave me Cassava Yams at the mosque really helped. So the good news is I was familiar with Twin-Twin Transfusion Syndrome, cord compression, and mo-mo entanglement.

At the VERY least, we know they're mo-di. She doesn't think they could possibly be di-di at this point because as with fraternals, the divide is apparent by now though the TWO placentas are not...they're still in their yolk sacs in this scan <-------- And of course there's no way they're fraternal as we would have seen two separate sacs and a nice thick line by now like this:

https://www.twin-pregnancy-and-beyond.com/ferternal-twins-ultrasound.html

So, if they're mo-di, they also share the same placenta (scary as hell) and have a dividing membrane that could be little more than a flap. So of course, worries about Twin-Twin Transfusion Syndrome will come into play. I have goosebumps just thinking about the severe overlap of blood supply and high grade anastomoses (connections between the largest blood vessels) between these two babies. If one goes, the other almost surely follows him/her to death. Will sibling rivalry come into play or can they share nicely? There's a 15% chance they won't share nicely.

There's a 1% chance they're mo-mo and maybe about 70% that they're mo-di. So, very good news and many girls on Baby and Bump like Twinmummy06 didn't see the divide with her mo-di twins until 14 weeks. But, with my history of the 1 in a million chance of getting pregnant on the VERY freaking day I'm ovulating after taking the MAP within 12 hours....coupled with the shock of identical twins that do not run in either of our families and identicals are an absolutely random event anyway (no such thing as genetic)...I have no doubt they could be mo-mo.

We're preparing to be admitted to the hospital at 24 weeks until delivery at 32-34 weeks to monitor constantly for cord entanglement and figuring out the logistics for our son now....just in case.

We also have to pray they're girls even though I wanted at least one more boy because boys jumping around with cord entanglement is a problem....75% of mo-mo twins are girls for that reason. In general, more identical twins are girls than boys because the girls can survive some of these precarious events better. The Recipient Boy in Twin-Twin Transfusion Syndrome is much more of a thief than the Recipient Girl.

We also know they will deliver if perfect at 37 weeks...the fears are of course, will they make it to viability at 24 weeks and will they have a long stay in the NICU, will they even survive the NICU?

In the meantime, my mind races with strange thoughts. If they're viable and survive all this, they'll have children. But, their children will not be first cousins but half-siblings. And will those same children call their aunt "aunt-mom" since technically their aunt is also their real mother?
 
Wow, Lucy, its awesome how much you know about these things! I'm quite confused about the difference between mo-mo and mo-di twins. I thought they'd see a membrane by now if they were mo-di. Heck, I don't know anything about this though. I can't even imagine spending 6 weeks in the hospital. Is your husband freaking out?

I think I understand where you are coming from. Like, wow, they are safe for now, how cool... but also there will be so much chaos coming as the weeks tick by.

I'm just trying to get through the next week for now. I feel awful physically and my new job starts Monday with 2 weeks of meetings and then my classes start. I hope I can do a good enough job.

Lots of prayers and blessings for you and the babies.
 
Thank you so much Nimyra. <3

I know some of the ladies here and on this FB Group Twinmummy06 helped me join didn't see the mo-di divide until 14-20 weeks. It can be really hard to see with mo-di because we're talking about a paper thin flap in some cases. Also, the fact that the babies haven't left their yolk sacs and we can't see that single placenta yet is normal at this stage. Perhaps, a clearer picture emerges at the 12 week appt. with the perinatologist. But, my OB thought we would see something indicating it this week. Of course, problematically, a few twin moms didn't find out they were even pregnant with twins until much later and therefore skipped what might have been seen at that 8 week viability scan (a divide). In other words, there may have BEEN a divide, but they just never had that appt. to know.

He's not as freaked out because he just doesn't quite understand the risks as much :D Maybe it's a good thing.

Yay!!! Your new job will be so awesome!!! Hang in there and hopefully you'll get an MS break by the time your job starts!! <3 Monday seems to be so soon though :( <3 Congrats and huge hugs....prayers for ease on Monday and for your scan which I know will be great <3
 
It's been so long since any body posted on here? Any updates to report? x x
 
Hi George!

Yes, I'm 9 weeks and doing fine so far. I was diagnosed with a subchorionic hematoma at 7 week scan but it went away by my 9 week follow-up, hooray!

I'm coming up on the time when I lost my last little one, so of course I'm nervous, but week by week I'm getting through this.

How are you doing?
 
Hello! In sorry to hear about your sub. h. but I'm glad it went away by itself. I can imagine if your anything like me you've already found this pregnancy so stressful after our angels that you really don't want anything adding to it.

I'm glad your weeks are ticking by and I hoping these next few especially are easy on you. I've got to 21 weeks now but I still can't relax. By this stage with my son I was a lot more excited. I've started looking at things we need to buy though which is helping! x x
 
Hi ladies, just checking in to see how everyone is doing!

Nimyra- so glad to hear things are going well <3 I know what you mean by getting through week by week. It's exactly how I feel too.

George- 21 weeks! Wow, time sure down fly! Glad to hear your doing well :)

I'm about 8 weeks right now...hard to tell exactly since my cycles weren't regular. I've had 3 beta hcg's and all looks good so far :) I'm having a scan in 8 more days and cannot wait...a little terrified at the same time though! Hoping it goes well!

I'm happy to read updates from everyone. I miss chatting with you ladies! <3 <3
 
Hi everyone, I hope you don't mind me joining your group. I'm new to this website. I've mostly been reading about other women's journey to motherhood. I had loss in June and would love to talk to other ladies in the same boat. When the miscarriage happened everyone around me wanted to just get back to their own lives. I know they felt bad for me and my hubby but it was so awkward discussing it with other women who have never been in our situation. I think it mde them uncomfortable. While I do have a beautiful 8 year old son, I'm still trying my best to heal.
 
Hi ladies, just checking in to see how everyone is doing!

Nimyra- so glad to hear things are going well <3 I know what you mean by getting through week by week. It's exactly how I feel too.

George- 21 weeks! Wow, time sure down fly! Glad to hear your doing well :)

I'm about 8 weeks right now...hard to tell exactly since my cycles weren't regular. I've had 3 beta hcg's and all looks good so far :) I'm having a scan in 8 more days and cannot wait...a little terrified at the same time though! Hoping it goes well!

I'm happy to read updates from everyone. I miss chatting with you ladies! <3 <3

I'm glad things are going well kasey, and good luck for the scan. We had 4 early scans and each time I remember being petrified something was going to have gone wrong I could never relax. at my 20 week scan I was so scared even though I could feel the baby moving by then. I think we'll be stuck being scared for our entire pregnancies :hugs:
 
Hi everyone, I hope you don't mind me joining your group. I'm new to this website. I've mostly been reading about other women's journey to motherhood. I had loss in June and would love to talk to other ladies in the same boat. When the miscarriage happened everyone around me wanted to just get back to their own lives. I know they felt bad for me and my hubby but it was so awkward discussing it with other women who have never been in our situation. I think it mde them uncomfortable. While I do have a beautiful 8 year old son, I'm still trying my best to heal.

Hello, I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. I found the same with my close friends and family too but strangely enough people I'm not that close to but had also been through a mc were the ones I found it easier to talk too. You're more than welcome to join our group but unfortunately we all seemed to have drifted away over the past couple of months and there aren't many posts on here very often now. x x
 
Hi Ladies,

I'm so glad to hear that everyone is doing well!

Kasey84: Great news about your HGC Levels doubling! That had to be really difficult-the wait for those numbers, but I know it feels good to get past that hurdle. I know your scan will be great! :hugs:

Nimyra: SO happy to hear that the hematoma is gone and that you had an excellent scan! <3 Happy Labor Day and hope first tri moves quickly for all of us! <3

George83: Now that you're 20 weeks, I wondered if you had your gender scan? :flower: I'm SO happy to hear that you're slowly moving away from seeing the blood, did they ever determine a reason for it? <3 Huge hugs :hugs:

Brgrande: Welcome! This is a great group, there's been a lot of :bfp: here and hope you have an easy and safe journey <3

As for me, everything is going good. I'm literally counting down the seconds to be out of first tri next week. The twins are SO cute, I had a scan where we could see them lying down waving to us. I can't tell you how much I already love them.

I have a bit of a placenta previa already, but no bleeding. In other words, the twins share an anterior placenta that sits ON my stomach wall and it also overlaps my cervix and is close to the cervix. No one is worried yet as this is common with mo-mo twins and will mostly mean I just have to have a V-cut C-Section and absolutely should not have my water break at home alone...but we already knew that. Also, the placenta often moves higher on the uterine wall as the pregnancy progresses and your worries about previa end, so they technically won't even diagnose placenta previa until 20 weeks. There is still no divide and I'm beginning to accept that they will be mo-mo. I know exactly where I'll be for in-patient at the hospital at 24 weeks (room 211 Brackenridge) and have even met another girl in Austin who had mo-mo twins. We have a closed FB group that's really helped me.

Glad to see everyone, I miss you all very much <3
 
Wow Lucy I still can't believe your having twins! I bet your ultrasound photo was the cutest. Are you 'happy' with being an inpatient from that early or are you - as I suspect - just grateful that the hospital are doing everything to keep your little ones safe? It certainly sounds like your being well looked after. I taught identical twin girls for the second time last year and they were the closest of friends.

Afm we could have found out baby's gender at our 20 week scan but decided to stay team yellow. I love the excitement of not knowing. The hospital never gave us a reason for the bleeding but it has all stopped now. I go back to work tomorrow after my summer holidays and hopefully start my maternity leave at the end if this term so it's starting to feel like I'm officially on baby count down now.

I can't believe how lucky we all are when I think back to how we all met not that long ago. I've been really emotional this past week and just thinking of it makes me want to cry again
 
Love that you stayed Team Yellow!! And congrats on your major milestone George83, passing 20 weeks!! Hope everyone else is doing well!

A piece of good news today:

We are officially MO-DI! They found the divide this morning at my high risk scan. :cloud9:

The babies look good as well, amniotic fluid is even and they are measuring 2-3 days ahead. :cloud9:
 
I am so happy they found the divide Lucy! And you must be so relieved to be entering the second trimester.

I hope everyone else's pregnancy are going well!

As for me...well, I think I got a bfp. In fact I'm pretty sure I have. I've taken 3 tests.

The test 2 days before my period was due was negative.
The test the day my period was due was a faint positive.
The test today, 1 day after my period was due, was a positive line, now a bit darker.
I'm going to test tomorrow as well, including with a digital so there's no confusion in my head as I am in a bit of disbelief.

I am beginning to understand what's been going on though. I am convinced I've been ovulating "late," as late as days 16-20 in my cycle. This is why it's taken us 6 months to get pregnant, because we've been missing O day every time. (but not this time, thanks to my husband's insistence!) I have never bothered to chart my temps or get an ovulation detector, and if I had, it probably would have saved a lot of time and emotionalism.

The late O is a theory, anyway. My bfp with my son came 2 days BEFORE my period, and with my MC, it came the day before. I only got the faint positive line yesterday. Today it's darker. The late O might mean a late implantation also, which is why it took me longer to get that positive line.

I did have a feeling something was up because I noticed "pregnant behavior" in myself.

But I am just in disbelief and I am trying so hard not to be terrified. I am honestly terrified though. Thrilled, but scared. I look forward to testing again tomorrow to see if the line got darker.
 
The line got fainter. And the digi said NOT PREGNANT. I'm so confused. :(
 
EarthMama, it could just be early or it might be a chemical... Either way you'll know more in a few days,

BUT... Many many women get BFPs right after a chemical. Myself included. So don't give up if this one doesn't stick, this next month you'd have a much better shot at success.

Love and good wishes for a sticky bean!!
 
Thanks Nimyra and EarthMama <3

EarthMama, just wanted to echo everything Nimyra said. Don't give up hope just yet. With the twins, I remember crying my eyes out when the line got lighter one day, somewhere around dpo 20. I had tested with morning urine and used afternoon that day. Also, to this minute no sore boobs with the twins for me.

All of us are thinking of you. Hope everything goes well <3. If you need answers, you could also have your levels tested <3. There are girls who don't get positives on Frer and are pregnant, but it only shows via blood test.

Love and hugs <3.
 
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