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May All Our Dreams Come True - May Testing Thread

What is natural IVF? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. :haha:


Well from what I've read it's relatively new but good for couples who produce eggs and good sperm levels.
Basically they track the natural growth of an unstimulates follical and when it's ready take it out, into the lab, add the sperm , let them swim about until it fertilises (or you can have ICSI..putting a sperm directly into the egg) wait a couple of days to make sure it's fertilised and cells are growing then pop it back in.
It's IVF, but natural in that female cycle not stopped or stimulated, no meds, no spare embyros.
Sounds good to me cos quite like just a step up from IUI, tho I want to know the success rates as it is a new treatment...and cheaper than IVF..which is €5K a pop...this will be our last shot.
 
^ yup it's unmediated. I bet they only do it on younger women >35
 
^ yup it's unmediated. I bet they only do it on younger women >35
Yeah i'm not sure on those kinda details, that's why I'm waiting to speck to the doc. All my levels are excellent, AMH etc. but if its not anymore successful than IUI we'll just do the IUI again. I was just thinking that forcing the fertilisation part might be better. I'll let you guys know what the specialist says...might be useful !
 
I'm probably crazy but it's there IRL. I've taken it out so the lines are moved in this one. It's ok if you don't see it lol. I'm examining them lol

Good that your trigger is out! Now let's see the line come back

I definitely see a faint line! Hoping good things for you Flutter!
 
Thanks for the explanation. I did talk to the doctor that performed my IUI about that, but I don't think she called it Natural IVF. Either way, it HAS to be better. I think these :spermy: are similar to our husbands. Helpless without us telling them what to do and where to go. HA!!HA!!
 
Thanks for the explanation. I did talk to the doctor that performed my IUI about that, but I don't think she called it Natural IVF. Either way, it HAS to be better. I think these :spermy: are similar to our husbands. Helpless without us telling them what to do and where to go. HA!!HA!!

Yup not even with a map and a compass!! It's called 'soft' IVF and 'mild ' IVF in some of the articles i'm reading..problem is tho its cumulative...many clinics seem to reccommend 3-4 cycles:nope:
 
Fluter I see a shadow of something in the first pic. Good luck.
Am sure I've heard people talking about natural ivf in the 35+ threads.
Afm no af yet. Could still be a messed up post mc cycle. Not feeling anything one way or the other. Got one more cb digi but might hold on til thurs and see what happens. Only picking thurs as got a day off work so easier to test!
 
Scrap that last msg-just starting spotting! Boo hiss.
 
Oh nessaw-You got me excited there....It's just spotting..may not be a full AF. fxfxfxfx. :dust: You can get your hug later. I'm saving it!! :friends:
 
Good luck, flutter- I see something on the enhanced one!
 
I know terri. Was hoping I'd ovd late maybe. Should know the cb digi is never wrong for me unfortunately!
 
Hi gals,

Happy Belated B-day Terri and Taurus

Sorry to those AF got.

Not much going on here. In the throes of my 2nd round of Clomid plus some Chinese herbs that I have to take 8 of 3x's a day. It's been super busy for me, which has kept me out of mischief.
 
I'm off..the witch arrived this morning bang on time:growlmad::growlmad:
Anyhoo finally got to speak to a doctor at the clinic and some interesting facts about 'natural' IVF.
They've done 65 cycles this year and zero pregnancies:nope:
They only reccommend it for under 35's with tube problems only
It's cumulative...any sucesses they have had are on like the 4th/5th go.
He reckoned standard IVF still the best chance of success ..after 3 goes!!

So the plan...no IVF, that was always the deal with himself and we don't have €5k to throw at it and how would i feel if i did one cycle and BFN ..i'd want to go again..and borrow...and owe and all the while taking energy and fun/holiday/college money from our gorgeous boy.
So we're going one more IUI, the doctor says rates of success are low at my age but my AMH is high so there's still a good chance.
How I'll feel if this doesn't work and I have to say goodbye to my second baby dream....??? probably lots of snots and tears:cry: but i'll have to get my head around it.
So plan for this next cycle...no trips , no galavanting, no diet coke, lots of BD, try to chillax...:happydance::coffee::haha:
 
My tests were due to the trigger. Didn't get any darker. Actually looks lighter maybe. I'm very sad. This has been a long road for me and I think I'm at the end of that road
 
Nessaw - Sorry that the witch showed. :hugs:

Red - Sorry to you, too, :hugs: but I'm glad you have a plan. Fx for you next month!!!

Fluter - I'm so sorry about those tests. Hang in there. :hugs:
 
fluterby-How do you know it was still the trigger? If that's the case, maybe a BFP will be showing up soon. I know you're feeling bad, and I don't want to boost your excitement, but are you absolutely sure?? I'm not sure how the decline of the trigger/increase of hcg works. Does one overpower the other? Does one have to leave before the other one shows up...does that make sense. :hugs:

Redclaire-I'm so sorry about that silly witch. :hugs: Thanks for the info on natural IVF as well. It doesn't seem like a bad idea. I wonder why they only do it for young people. Probably because the success rate of us oldies is low no matter what, so they don't bother. Now there's a depressing thought. You did go on a lot of trips, so this time around you'll be chillaxed for real. :)

kfs1-I see something exciting in your chart. hee hee. How silly am I? Any increase calls for a good day. :friends:
 
My tests were due to the trigger. Didn't get any darker. Actually looks lighter maybe. I'm very sad. This has been a long road for me and I think I'm at the end of that road
Not out til the witch arrives flutter..I tested out my trigger at 7DPO. I really do hope its just a case of diluted urine samples. Its a hard road, I know where you're at...I'm not far behind you:cry::hugs:
 
Bookwrmgal-I'm happy that you're staying out of trouble. Are your herbs in pill form? What are they supposed to do? 3x a day is a lot. Are you doing IUI, or just clomid and hopes for a proper ovulation?
 
Bookwrmgal-I'm happy that you're staying out of trouble. Are your herbs in pill form? What are they supposed to do? 3x a day is a lot. Are you doing IUI, or just clomid and hopes for a proper ovulation?


They are little bb sized pills. Here's the link
https://www.acuatlanta.net/plum-flower-left-side-replenishing-teapills-200-count-p-54273.html

Something to do with balancing my kidney chi and accepting the sperm. Just clomid for now because my insurance doesn't cover IUI or IVF. I only got a script for 2 mos of clomid. I'm not particularly crazy about my new RE so I may switch to someone else but if insurance won't cover anything then I am not sure if it's worth the effort until I get a new job.

Red :hugs: sorry AF came but it sounds like you have a solid plan of attack
 

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