May IVF

[Brambletess]

ICSI is good as all of the eggs wil be fertilised, we were down for that as well, even though my DH boys are borderline. They just do it now if there is even the slightest question of sperm quality. Will be thinking of you today and I guess you will be on full sofa duty.

 

[Brambletess]

Latestarter - I think the bleeding must be from the clot, it makes total sense. Its away from the placenta or it was anyway and that allows the blood to pass out of the vagina a lot easier. Clots usually dissolve and sometimes they just are absorbed into the body and sometimes they cause a bleed. It can go on for days, weeks. I just have to assume that. My frined who had IVF and is three months ago bled a bit too at that start but she was told IVF is more evasive on the body and means bleeding from cervix is more likely. Just so you know if you ever get any. Lots of people bleed its very common but no less stressful. Good luck for your scan, can't wait to hear whats happening.

 

[wrightywales]

ICSI is good as all of the eggs wil be fertilised, we were down for that as well, even though my DH boys are borderline. They just do it now if there is even the slightest question of sperm quality. Will be thinking of you today and I guess you will be on full sofa duty.

Yes on sofa duty with my laptop and hubby running around after me. he has been brilliant through all of this. he was pacing up and down yesterday he didnt know what to do.

 

[wrightywales]

hello Ladies

just had the call out of 21 eggs 14 were useable 11 have fertilized. got 7 in the freezer and they kept 4 out. got transfer tomorrow 10.45 cant believe im gonna be PUPO this time tomorrow woohoooooooooo

 

[CurlySue]

hello Ladies

just had the call out of 21 eggs 14 were useable 11 have fertilized. got 7 in the freezer and they kept 4 out. got transfer tomorrow 10.45 cant believe im gonna be PUPO this time tomorrow woohoooooooooo

That is fantastic news. Out of that 4 they will probably choose the one or two front runners.

The ones that were unusable, they were probably immature. Like they say, the ovary is only meant to produce 1 or 2 eggs per cycle. Did they say how many they are transferring?

 

[wrightywales]

hello Ladies

just had the call out of 21 eggs 14 were useable 11 have fertilized. got 7 in the freezer and they kept 4 out. got transfer tomorrow 10.45 cant believe im gonna be PUPO this time tomorrow woohoooooooooo

That is fantastic news. Out of that 4 they will probably choose the one or two front runners.

The ones that were unusable, they were probably immature. Like they say, the ovary is only meant to produce 1 or 2 eggs per cycle. Did they say how many they are transferring?

i opted for 2 but she said depends on quality. hope i do have 2 put back better chance of geting my

 

[wrightywales]

curlysue hope your gettin lots of rest in your 2ww. good luck with it all. fx it works for you xxxxxxxxxxxx

im not far behind you

 

[CurlySue]

hello Ladies

just had the call out of 21 eggs 14 were useable 11 have fertilized. got 7 in the freezer and they kept 4 out. got transfer tomorrow 10.45 cant believe im gonna be PUPO this time tomorrow woohoooooooooo

That is fantastic news. Out of that 4 they will probably choose the one or two front runners.

The ones that were unusable, they were probably immature. Like they say, the ovary is only meant to produce 1 or 2 eggs per cycle. Did they say how many they are transferring?

i opted for 2 but she said depends on quality. hope i do have 2 put back better chance of geting my

Good luck either way.

To be honest, I don't understand why they are freezing seven for you now. They told me they would only freeze high quality blastocysts with a high probability of success and that "if they froze every divided embryo the freezers would be full to the brim". Your embryos are not even at two or three cells as of now. Plus, how do they know which of the 11 are going to be the 'front runners' if some hav already been put in the freezer?

Don't mean to ask too many questions or come across as strange but this utterly confuses me. I had as many embryos as you, almost. 10. They kept all 10 out in the lab to see which of the 10 were the best. They let them all develop and then watched to see which ones were the strongest, which is what they said they would do during the Patient Info evening. Did they explain why they did not follow this procedure with you? Is it that yours have all over-achieved and there is nothing to choose between, do you think?

 

[wrightywales]

hello Ladies

just had the call out of 21 eggs 14 were useable 11 have fertilized. got 7 in the freezer and they kept 4 out. got transfer tomorrow 10.45 cant believe im gonna be PUPO this time tomorrow woohoooooooooo

That is fantastic news. Out of that 4 they will probably choose the one or two front runners.

The ones that were unusable, they were probably immature. Like they say, the ovary is only meant to produce 1 or 2 eggs per cycle. Did they say how many they are transferring?

i opted for 2 but she said depends on quality. hope i do have 2 put back better chance of geting my

Good luck either way.

To be honest, I don't understand why they are freezing seven for you now. They told me they would only freeze high quality blastocysts with a high probability of success and that "if they froze every divided embryo the freezers would be full to the brim". Your embryos are not even at two or three cells as of now. Plus, how do they know which of the 11 are going to be the 'front runners' if some hav already been put in the freezer?

Don't mean to ask too many questions or come across as strange but this utterly confuses me. I had as many embryos as you, almost. 10. They kept all 10 out in the lab to see which of the 10 were the best. They let them all develop and then watched to see which ones were the strongest, which is what they said they would do during the Patient Info evening. Did they explain why they did not follow this procedure with you? Is it that yours have all over-achieved and there is nothing to choose between, do you think?

Havent got a clue thats something for me to ask them tomorrow isnt it

 

[CurlySue]

Havent got a clue thats something for me to ask them tomorrow isnt it

You could do. Just ask them why they didn't leave all 11 embryos out to see which ones were the best to transfer. A lot of embryos arrest at the 2-4 cell stage so they normally like to have the strongest embryos to transfer, which is usually evident around the 2 day stage (i.e. the day for transfers). They left ours an extra day because there were so many embryos and they could not choose a clear winner without seeing which ones stood out. I just wonder why they froze yours before they got to that stage of cell division without looking at them as potential 'transferees' so to speak.

Utterly baffling, really, how they treat different people differently. The ones they put back for you will most likely be fine but it is very confusing, that. Totally conflicts what they told me only yesterday. Now I'm wondering if they SHOULD be freezing my embryos or why they did not freeze them on Day 1 like they are doing for you. After all, they were all still dividing then.

 

[akcher]

Girls, wishing you lots of for your cycle. Been popping in here now and then to check progress.

wrightywales: with my cycle, they grew the embryos to day 5. On the day of ET out of the 10 that fertilized, 5 was developing normally. 3 were grade A. We decided to transfer 2 and freeze 3. It is a bit odd that they would freeze so soon.

 

[CurlySue]

Girls, wishing you lots of for your cycle. Been popping in here now and then to check progress.

wrightywales: with my cycle, they grew the embryos to day 5. On the day of ET out of the 10 that fertilized, 5 was developing normally. 3 were grade A. We decided to transfer 2 and freeze 3. It is a bit odd that they would freeze so soon.

I am wondering whether something has been misunderstood, which is why its a good idea that she is going to ask them about it tomorrow since they explicitly told me they would not freeze anything but viable blastocysts. Out of my 10 embryos, 2 simply stopped growing after 2 days. 4 more were slower than normal. What if they'd kept those four for me and froze the rest? I'd have four slow, non viable embryos to transfer and two that were going to arrest at 2 or 3 cells in the freezer.

Acher, good that you got to freeze some. Didn't need to though, going on your ticker

 

[Pixie71]

Dear All

I had my scan at 12.54 and was told I had one baby, of which we saw the heartbeat. There was an empty sac where the other embryo was but that it had not taken, it was done by ultrasound scan. When I got home at 3pm I had a fresh bleed, and we went to the local hospital, the bleed did stop and they scanned me and said that the baby was fine and we saw the heartbeat again, and she also said that I could expect more bleeding which I am currently. Has anyone else experienced this or heard of anyone who has had this? I am very nervous about this and really wish that they had kept me in to observe over night! The bleed is not too heavy and I dont have much more than a little cramp! When the second scan was done I couldnt see the empty sac which earlier had been right near the baby, I presume that it is the empty sac falling away, the SHO did say that it was unlikely for me to loose the other baby but I am so nervous now as the bleed has started again!

 

[CurlySue]

Sorry about your experience, Pixie. I think that it is normal. Knew of a person who had this same thing, pregnant with twins, lost one, bled whilst that one was spontaneously miscarried and then once that was all through with the bleeding stopped. I suppose there is not really anything that they can do to observe you, love, to be honest. That's why they sent you home. The only thing they can do is tell you to keep an eye on the bleeding and to return to them if there is any pain.

ps my friend was fine. She did not lose the second twin. She was just told to take it easy for a few weeks afterwards and went back for a further scan to ensure that there was nothing left behind.

 

[Pixie71]

Thanks Curlysue, my partner got our clinic out of hours whilst I was on line and the nurse is going to call me back!

 

[latestarter]

Hi girls,

I am at work and should not be posting.

Anyway, Wrightywales I just wanted to let you know that my clinic froze my 3 embryos on day 3 as well. They told me that when there were some obvious front-runners, it is best to freeze them early because they have better pregnancy rates that way. The others, the ones they were not so sure about, they kept in culture to divide to see how they were doing. They didn't make it to freeze. So you are not alone, and I think different clinics have different lab enviornments so different methods that work for them. I was surprised as well, but that was the information I was given.

Pixie - I'm sorry you are bleeding. My Dr. told me to expect that it might happen with twins. Its called vanishing twin syndrome. Sometimes you bleed the other one away, and sometimes it just gets reabsorbed into your body. But they told me the other baby would be fine if it happened. I hope your clinic calls you back and reassures you. The second scan was certainly reassuring!

OK - gotta actually do work today!

 

[Pixie71]

Thanks again to Curlysue and Latestarter, my clinic rang me and the person who scanned me was the caller! She reassured me as per what both of you have said and I think the bleed is subsiding now. I am going to lay low all weekend! Plenty of DVDs to watch! I have a scan booked for monday morning so should see that all is ok, either of you know how long the bleed may last?
Thanks again for the support, it means a lot to me.

 

[wrightywales]

im really stressing now these eggs are my only chance of a child i cant afford to go private and because i live in wales only get 1 round of ivf/icsi. what if they have ruined them freezing them so early. what im i gonna do if they have cant believe ive been stress free until now

Latestarter they have frozen my 1 day old embies not 3 day old

i really am worrying. been sitting here crying for 1/2 hour thinking the worst

 

[latestarter]

Wrightywales, Please don't stress out too much. I'm sure your clinic does whatever has worked best for them when it comes to timing the freezing of embryo's. Remember, they WANT you to get pregnant, and want to do everything they can to give you the best possible chance. Every clinic and every RE does things differently, and maybe your clinic is doing something new that they have found works better for them. 7 frozen embies is fantastic, I'm sure, IF you need them, some of them will make it to a day 3 or day 5 transfer for you.

 

[latestarter]

Curlysue - are you and wrightywales at the same clinic?