Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

Mdscpa, it kinda looks like u may O a little earlier and really do have a healthier LP. I feel like u may get CH's tomorrow because so far looking at ur temps this cycle compared to the few pre o temps u had last cycle, it looks like u started temping a couple days after O happened last cycle. That may be ur answer right there is that u just need to BD earlier. I tend to O early so I read a study and it said as long as its 7 days after the start of AF, the egg would be mature and I truly think CD 8 or 9 was ur O date last cycle and that would make ur LP 13-14 days long. We'll see if FF agrees tomorrow but going by both ur signs and ur pattern so far, its looking like ur 2dpo. Did u already guess this? I'm sorry if u did and I just explained all that lol. But this is good news, this means u have a very healthy LP! :-) i hope everything goes AMAZING with dhs SA!

Actually i was thinking the same after seeing two temps going up that maybe i already O'ed, seeing the partial ferning then watery CM the next day then the other symptoms. But i don't know yet coz usually i'll have days of watery/EWCM during my fertile window not just a day of watery CM and most of the time it's a lot. So, still hoping i haven't o'ed yet, lol. And, if i really O early every cycle maybe me and DH need to talk about starting our BD early as well, the thing is we don't like it when i still have spotting kinda messy if you know what i mean. I also stopped taking the medicines because even though it gave me cramps on my left like im producing eggs there again i don't like how it made my spotting/period/spotting very long. Hopefully, next cycle i'm back to have 4-5 days period so we can bd the day after :af: just to catch the early O.

I will always hope for the best! But really a longer LP is something to be very excited about! :-) I do know it sucks oing early :-\. But its def manageable after u figure out what works best FOR YOU. Before I actually knew what my real fertile period was, I used to Think I oed about 3-5 days later than I really tend to because of other signs such as still having watery cm and a high soft cervix but I found out after my first cycle temping that half the time, dh and I were completely missing our fertile period! All the other signs can be VERY misleading at times. I often get watery cm after O (estrogen is produced in small amounts after O) and I also noticed I sometimes would confuse left over semen/sperm as being EWCM or watery cm (they are almost identical at times!). I know we hope u haven't oed yet but itd be alot better then having an LP defect! When an eggy does get fertilized, then you'll know it'll have enough time for implantation to happen :-). I wish u tonssss of luck! The highlighted "fertile days" that FF marks for u, for ur first couple cycles charting, its just an estimate and after FF has recorded a few cycles with O showing on ur chart, it'll start highlighting new days to show you REAL expected fertile days. It originally starts off with the old fashion "cycle day 14 O with a 14 day LP" until the software gets to know YOU. Does that make sense? It used to confuse me my first cycle using FF lol Are u getting an hsg this cycle too? (I know Megan is but for some reason I was thinking u r too..?) I know ur dhs both have an SA coming up! I bet everything will go great! FX!!!!!!!! Good luck!!!
 
Mary, longer LP is much better at least i know the egg has enough time to implant. won't be having HSG yet this cycle but still, it depends on the results and the recommendation of the doc although she already mentioned us to have HSG to know if there's anything to be concerned about. But she insisted that DH has to have his SA first before concentrating on me. I'm starting to have EWCM this afternoon and it's already stretchy for up to 2 inches. We're definitely gonna miss O, but i'm ok with that, coz this is a TESTS cycle for me and DH, lol.
 
Mdscpa - Good luck with your testing this cycle! At least you'll have answers!

Megan - Sorry about AF, but good luck with your HSG!

Mary - I'm so sorry your family has to go through this yet again, especially your mom. I couldn't imagine the emotion toll she feels. I'll keep you all in my thoughts!

Sorry if I missed anyone =/
 
Mary, longer LP is much better at least i know the egg has enough time to implant. won't be having HSG yet this cycle but still, it depends on the results and the recommendation of the doc although she already mentioned us to have HSG to know if there's anything to be concerned about. But she insisted that DH has to have his SA first before concentrating on me. I'm starting to have EWCM this afternoon and it's already stretchy for up to 2 inches. We're definitely gonna miss O, but i'm ok with that, coz this is a TESTS cycle for me and DH, lol.

today could still be ur O date, u guys cant bd before his SA? My doc told me TO BD with dh 3 days before because itd show a more accurate count...? What were the instructions ur doc gave u guys to prepare his swimmers for the SA? like how many days before did u have to stop bding?
 
I just remembered out of the blue, that if I get pregnant, I'm allowed to chapter 8 out of the Army... meaning they will let me get out on a voluntary discharge if I choose to. I have up until 30 days before my EDD to decide, but the paperwork has to be in by the time of birth so most people decide much sooner.

I talked to DH about this and he said we will consider all the options but we have to be smart. I feel sick over this because I honestly do not like my job and I've never been happy in it, and it's getting worse, and I want to be home with my baby when I have one. I can teach flute lessons full time, but the problem is the time of day- I would probably be home while all the students are in school during the day, and then I would be able to teach after 4:00 each day but then our baby would still need someone to watch him/her. Even if I taught at my own house, the baby would need a babysitter and then teaching a lesson would be basically pointless financially. Or I could do like marathon teaching days on DH's days off, but then I’d never see him!!

I was thinking I had 2.5 years to decide this, but with the idea of the Chapter 8, now I'm realizing I might be able to get out earlier and figure this out right now. It might sound crazy to those on the outside, how could I want to leave such a steady income and full health coverage and retirement potential when I'm 43 years old- well the problem is, my job isn't 9-5 every day. It's like the most random hours and most of the time it is very stressful and laborious. It's not at all what I thought I was getting into. Anyway, does anyone have any ideas how teaching lessons could work? Lol. I am just praying someone will have some awesome solution pop into their head. :P
 
So...... You guys must think I am a huge whiner and all, but I'm really sad. I think all of you know that baby #2 would have been due on about 3 weeks and that my sister announced the same day that I did hat she was pregnant as well. Obviously I lost my baby, but her pregnancy has continued without incident. So, she went to the doctor yesterday and they did an exam on her with an ultrasound because my nephew was positioned incorrectly when he was born 3 years ago. Well......apparently she is already at 2cm and totally thinned out so the doctors say my newest nephew should be here some time this week or next.

I am so upset and angry and ashamed. I didn't think it would be this hard but I am really struggling! I am angry that she stole my day in the limelight and that her pregnancy continued when mine failed so miserably. I'm ashamed because I'm angry about something I have no control over and upset that it isn't different. I want my baby back, but it doesn't seem like anyone really understands. I know I'll be ok and I'll have my own baby, or babies, soon but it doesn't help me in the here and now.


On another note, I got a call from the orthopedic doctors office saying they have no idea what the nurse was talking about at the surgery center was. They moved my surgery from about 30 minutes or so from our apartment to the main hospital about 15 minutes away because of the ddvap and said my surgery should be the first of the afternoon because the doctors office is connected to the main hospital so he will already be there. As of now we are good to go on June 11, sometime after 10am.
 
Jess, that is really tough. I think you're right, though. Most people do not understand. When you explain it, I get a glimpse of what it must feel like, but I don't truly feel what you feel. First of all, I don't think you should be ashamed for being angry about it. It's not fair. It's really shitty actually. It's a coincidence that she's due at the same time, and you know it's not under your control, but that doesn't make it feel any better. You have every right to feel what you're feeling right now. I had a similar talk with DH today, because he was telling me to try not to be upset that AF arrived. I told him- I'm not going to stifle my feelings. Right now, today, I'm sad. I will get over it, and one day we'll be pregnant, and I'll see that it will all work out. But right now... I'm just sad. We have to let ourselves process these things as they come, in the moment, like you said- here and now. We all have lots of babies all around us- for me, it's at my workplace. A friend brought in her newborn and at first I was happy to see him, and as soon as I walked away, tears started flooding- I can't even control it. But then I thought of the tests coming up and I let myself feel sad and then feel whatever else I felt- which was hope. And that's how I felt better eventually. You have a lot, a LOT of hope. It might not help in this moment, or when your sister's baby is born, but it will eventually lift you up again. Just take it one step at a time and rest assured that it absolutely is going to be better one day.
 
Jess, I completely understand how u feel...even tho we know we will get our babies, its extremely hard watching all the people closest to us get pregnant/have babies all around us, especially around the time of what would have been our EDD's :-(. I'm sorry hun. I always feel bad for having the feelings of anger that I have as well but I CANT HELP IT! It truly does feel like someone else is stealing it from you when ur in a situation like this. If my brothers gf took a test 2 1/2 months ago when all my friends tested, she would have had pregnancy news right before my HSG as well. That's 4 women in close to that got knocked up at once. I am so angry about 2 of them that I won't even talk to my friend and I want to but again, I CANT! I feel awful for it. But like u said, nobody understands how this feels! I broke down today and said to my mom that I have nobody to talk about this with in person because NOBODY I know has problems in the fertility department except for me :-\. It really f*Ing sucks!! And I told my mom that if it weren't for you girls, I dont know how id make it through because you are the only ones who DO know how it is. Now after hearing ANOTHER pregnancy announcement, I'm back into "how can I get pregnant RIGHT NOW!?" and I was doing really good coping with everything. My other SIL is having her baby in July when I was supposed to be due. Its hard watching her go through her pregnancy knowing that's right where id be in my pregnancy if it stuck :-(. I hope you feel better. That's alls I can say at a time like this...And u DO NOT sound like a whiner! You have every reason to feel that way and I think most of us secretly feel that way. Honestly, its hard for me to be happy about ANYONE'S pregnancy except for the ladies on here. You are the only ones I can truly be happy for and that's because I know you all are trying so hard and want it so bad that its encouraging when someone on here gets a BFP, especially after quite a few months. It keeps the faith alive. Feel better Jessica! Your not alone <3
 
This is cycle #5*
Through DPO 1-6 no noticeable symptoms, couldnt sleep until 2AM everynight
DPO 5/6*
heavier boobs, watery eyes
DPO 7
through the day had a few twinges in right ovary but nothing to fuss about, by night time when I was laying down I have a few sharp stronger twinges in the same spot for a few seconds, couldn't get to sleep again till 1/2am*
watery eyes again
Had diarrhea once today, then by night I was constipated
gassy
Nipples on hurt if pushed quite hard no soreness on its own*
DPO 8*
Woke up feeling "Different" tummy felt like air inside (bloated)*
Had small pains through the day a bit on both side and a tiny bit in the middle.*
Wiped through the middle of the day and discovered a little pale yellow thick stretchy CM*
CM had gone back to normal afterwards.*
Had a nap at 5PM - 7.30PM I never nap ever! Then woke up dizzy and weak and felt like a flu or bug was coming on.
watery eyes again*
Constipated today, was able to pass some at one point though
Gassy
On and off hunger
Slighty burping not much to take as a symptom*
Nipples on hurt if pushed quite hard no soreness on its own*
I wouldnt say I had cramps like AF at all, didnt hurt... just felt gassy as if I had to let it out of go to the toilet*

DPO9*
sore neck and shoulders (muscles)*
Slighty dry throat*
DRY cm*
extremely tired

DPO10*
quite cold today, is this bad??*
DRY cm*
Burping and get a burning in my throat like acid
BFN


does this ound like AF is coming?
 
I just remembered out of the blue, that if I get pregnant, I'm allowed to chapter 8 out of the Army... meaning they will let me get out on a voluntary discharge if I choose to. I have up until 30 days before my EDD to decide, but the paperwork has to be in by the time of birth so most people decide much sooner.

I talked to DH about this and he said we will consider all the options but we have to be smart. I feel sick over this because I honestly do not like my job and I've never been happy in it, and it's getting worse, and I want to be home with my baby when I have one. I can teach flute lessons full time, but the problem is the time of day- I would probably be home while all the students are in school during the day, and then I would be able to teach after 4:00 each day but then our baby would still need someone to watch him/her. Even if I taught at my own house, the baby would need a babysitter and then teaching a lesson would be basically pointless financially. Or I could do like marathon teaching days on DH's days off, but then I’d never see him!!

I was thinking I had 2.5 years to decide this, but with the idea of the Chapter 8, now I'm realizing I might be able to get out earlier and figure this out right now. It might sound crazy to those on the outside, how could I want to leave such a steady income and full health coverage and retirement potential when I'm 43 years old- well the problem is, my job isn't 9-5 every day. It's like the most random hours and most of the time it is very stressful and laborious. It's not at all what I thought I was getting into. Anyway, does anyone have any ideas how teaching lessons could work? Lol. I am just praying someone will have some awesome solution pop into their head. :P

If you ask my DH, he would tell you to "tough it out" (ex Marine). If you ask me, I'd leave for a child without thinking twice about it!!!! I'd do anything to have a baby, and to be home with it. :) I would say if you wanted to do teaching, you could come up with a solution. It's early and my brain hasn't start reeling just yet but I will think about it for you!!!
 
Jess, I'm so sorry. My sister announced her pregnancy the day after I had my loss. She wasn't even trying and was able to have the cute little baby I shared with you all last week. It's hard somedays, especially knowing that I should have my LO now. And even DH doesn't understand the pain I am in when it comes to this stuff. It hurts more than anything else I have ever felt. :( but, I keep going bc I know my forever baby is awaiting us, and I just can't give up until I have him/her. I know your forever baby is awaiting you as well and you will be happily pregnant before the end of the year, and be giving birth by next summer!!!!! <3 :hugs:
 
Mary, longer LP is much better at least i know the egg has enough time to implant. won't be having HSG yet this cycle but still, it depends on the results and the recommendation of the doc although she already mentioned us to have HSG to know if there's anything to be concerned about. But she insisted that DH has to have his SA first before concentrating on me. I'm starting to have EWCM this afternoon and it's already stretchy for up to 2 inches. We're definitely gonna miss O, but i'm ok with that, coz this is a TESTS cycle for me and DH, lol.

today could still be ur O date, u guys cant bd before his SA? My doc told me TO BD with dh 3 days before because itd show a more accurate count...? What were the instructions ur doc gave u guys to prepare his swimmers for the SA? like how many days before did u have to stop bding?

Temp drop again i hope it still drops so i may still have a chance. DH had his SA this morning the doc said result will be available tonight but we'll just probably get it on friday so we can discuss with our doc together with my tests done last week although i already got them and my hormones were within the normal range, but i still need my our docs opinion. The doc said to have at least 3-4days no bd so its gonna be more accurate. We didnt bd a couple of days ago because im on my period so DH has to do his thing 4days ago, lol.... Of course, DH was like shaking when handing over his sample, lol...... I didn't know it's gonna be that cheap they only charge us for like $20.00.
 
mds- good luck, hope it goes well on Friday :)

Kenna- yay I think with the positive OPK and higher temps now, you must be 2 dpo! Woohoo!!

AFM- I drank a nice glass of wine last night which evened out my brain a little. I'm just so overly emotional and wishing for a different situation. I told DH even if I got a different job NOT flute-related, it would be better on me emotionally because I wouldn't go to work expecting to be musically fulfilled. You can't separate music and emotion just because it's a job- If music is part of the job, you expect to feel fulfilled. It's the nature of music. Well my job is music without real expression or challenge- it's "notes on a page", not music. It's just blah. Which kills one's spirit. Well, I need to get on with my day, more BS to do at work. I'll be praying over this one, definitely.
 
FX for u mdscpa! It looks like u usually get fallback rises as well (which is a dip 2-4dpo or maybe until 5dpo..). I am crossing my fingers VERYYYY TIGHTLY that it doesn't go back up tomorrow. I wish we could just O when we are ready to!! Lol everything would be much easier! :-) Given ur cycle length, I'm pretty positive u USUALLY do O early, hopefully that's not the case this cycle but if it temp goes back up tomorrow, you'll get CH's for 3-4dpo BUT just keep remembering, this would be good news. It'd make for a MUCH better LP! :-) So even if u have to miss O one cycle, you could just look at it as a nice relaxation time (esp once u get good news on dh too!) and start a "plan" for next cycle. When I have missed O before actually temping, that's what I would do and then I ended up getting into the habit of making a plan for the next cycle every month for a while. Now I'm in TRYING to relax mode while i wait a couple more cycles...im doing good for the most part. Anyways, I DO PRAY u can catch O but I also hope u have a healthy LP. I hope I'm wrong about how I see ur pattern this cycle! And I very well could be, its just ur previous 2 cycles being 23 days long long and the one before being around 25-26 days makes me think CD8-12 ( like me) is when your usual fertile period is. I dont want to get ur hopes down or anything but I am trying to help u figure this out for ur future cycles :-) That's why they tell women to start charting cuz alot of times timing their "expected fertile period" isn't quite on before temping. It all becomes so clear very fast tho and everything starts making more sense and then u'll get in your bding and get your sticky bean in no time!! :-). Again, I could be wrong. I need to get a life in the a.m's so I stop analyzing peoples charts! Lol or I need to just find out about that job offer I got so I can do it for a living & get paid as well. Id love that job. I need a new laptop tho. I dont think I could work from my phone. Mdscpa, my fingers are always crossed for you! (btw, what is your real name...did u share it? I can't seem to remember!!)
 
Are you going to try to bd today mdscpa? Might not hurt to do so if DH is up for it!!!'
 
Oh Mary, iloveu, really????? U made that novel on your phone??? Maybe i'll give give you a laptop so you won't have a hard time helping others typing on your phone... I do suspect that i ovulate early from CD 7-12, when i was tracking symptoms and CM but not 100% sure though maybe after a couple of cycles temping maybe i'll figure it out if both of us are right.

By the way, my name is Daphne, its in my sig on FF certificate... Thank you so much for being there.. Hope we all get our bfps in no time.

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