Team Ding Dong... Bonking, Bumping, and Burping Along Together! ;-)

[coral11680]

Hi girls

Eesoja nice to hear from you, glad you haven't forgot us!

Hopes good luck at docs hun.

Ladyb enjoy being pampered hun!

Poppy mmmm pancakes they were delish might make more tomorrow too

Tink wow you really have popped now, that editing is cute!

Phoebe like the pram hun I'm still undecided about what one to get but will wait til after I go to America in April. I might snap a bargain up there.

Hi caz, cabs, who else, my brain is fried! xxxxxxxxx

 

[Hopes314]

My appointment went fine. This doctor was much more optimistic and pleasant than the last one. We heard the heart beat (not that i dont hear it every day ) She said 169 bpm. I mentioned my itchiness and hives, she didnt have an explanation really but said if it happens again to come in righttt away not to go to regular doctor, that way she can see the reaction.

My urine test from today came back with "high ketones" and she seemed concerned about my not getting enough to drink and eat. I also still weigh like nothing apparently. She said I looked pale, and wanted to prescribe an anti-nausea medication, but I declined. She said sometimes people get one last bad bout of nausea around 12 weeks and that if I throw up anymore go in right away for fluids. Is high ketones really that bad? I just would prefer not to take any meds if I can get by ok without them.

 

[Hopes314]

and tink that is QUITE the bump you have!!!

 

[loveybear1]

Poppy666, how have you been? you nappy post totally cracked me up. I am going to take my test tomorrow. It will be 14 days past IUI. I have been having period cramps for 4 days now. I think AF is about to rear her ugly head. What is wierd though, I started having cramps five days before AF is due but no back pain or breast pain. Breasts are just tender on the sides. I usually get the cramps about 2 days before AF but then again, maybe it is just the CLOMID! I will keep you posted. Take care and don't let Korben's nappys get to you lol!

 

[loveybear1]

CORAL11680 Your baby is BEAUTIFUL! Congrats!

 

[phoebe]

My appointment went fine. This doctor was much more optimistic and pleasant than the last one. We heard the heart beat (not that i dont hear it every day ) She said 169 bpm. I mentioned my itchiness and hives, she didnt have an explanation really but said if it happens again to come in righttt away not to go to regular doctor, that way she can see the reaction.

My urine test from today came back with "high ketones" and she seemed concerned about my not getting enough to drink and eat. I also still weigh like nothing apparently. She said I looked pale, and wanted to prescribe an anti-nausea medication, but I declined. She said sometimes people get one last bad bout of nausea around 12 weeks and that if I throw up anymore go in right away for fluids. Is high ketones really that bad? I just would prefer not to take any meds if I can get by ok without them.

Hi Hopes, glad app went well. High ketones does mean ur not taking in much nutrients and can become dehydrated, it can become a big concern to u and baby if left, at very worst it could compromise u both. Its quite a big concern if i went in to ketosis being a diabetic. Its also what i am constantly checked for at dmw. So i'd imagine it could affect a normal person like urself too. And dont quote me on this but it could also mean ur also at risk of gestational diabetes. I only really know about it from my aspect of things and potentially unsafe it could be for me. Tink would prob be best to advise on this being a general nurse. I hope i have not alarmed u at all, but please do try and eat and drink more. ARe u displaying any symptons? ie like fruity breath( like nail varnish smell) as u do seem to be very tired all the time xx

If u do end up being sick more, ur dr may want to put in an iv drip to try and stop the dehydration xx

 

[Tinkerbellxxx]

Morning Ding Dongs!

Hopes, yes its not good at all to have a lot of Ketones in your urine. It is a product of the body effectively 'eating itself' where no food supply is available (ie when you stave yourself) Having said that just skipping one meal could result in this, but it sounds to me that as you are feeling very tired, week, and shaky (and doc said you are pale also). This sounds much more like a chronic lack of eating and you should either a. accept the pills or b. make sure you are forcing down a balanced diet and taking your vits. I know you don't want to hurt the baby honey, but taking the pills is better for the baby and you than not being able to eat or drink properly. They are safe in pregnancy, especially at the end of the first trimester like you are. If you cannot bare to eat enough or take the tablets you MUST drink constantly, and get the vitamins down. FX this advice wont be needed and this horrible morning sickness goes away really soon. I bet you got a girly in there xxxxx

Lovely bear, great to see you! let us know how the testing goes wont you? x

Pops, yes I am bloody fat too late now, may as well eat the pancakes mmm x

 

[Hopes314]

phoebe- thanks for the info! I really don't know much about these kinds of things other than what I hear in school, because I'm a pretty healthy person usually. I'm not sure I'm having any symptoms like the breath, but I've never paid attention? lol. You're right that I'm tired like all the time, I sleep probably 13+ hours a day and it never seems to be enough. Didn't think to mention that to Dr, I guess I never thought much of it. I just felt like my tiredness and nausea were just normal pregnancy stuff and I never worried about it much. I feel like I eat fairly often, its hard to believe that I am potentially not taking in as many calories as I am burning, hence the ketones. Hm. I told the dr. that and she just kept pushing the anti-nausea meds. I just said I'd come back for IV if I threw up more, then she shut up and left the meds alone lol.

 

[Hopes314]

Thanks tink! I guess what I'll do is try to pay close attention to how much I'm actually eating and keeping down (although I have yet to miss a single day of vitamins in like 8 months now! lol) I feel like I eat a LOT. Or at least a lot more than I used to pre-pregnancy anyway. I should have expected this kind of stuff to occur. I always get every symptom in the book for everything. If I don't feel like I'm improving I'll call dr. for the nausea meds and/or iv. I'm actually awake right now because I feel like crap and kept waking up throughout the night (its 330am here) But I dont feel like I'm having horrible nausea worse than anyone else on here? So I don't know. I'm pretty sure my body sucks at dealing with things.

 

[phoebe]

phoebe- thanks for the info! I really don't know much about these kinds of things other than what I hear in school, because I'm a pretty healthy person usually. I'm not sure I'm having any symptoms like the breath, but I've never paid attention? lol. You're right that I'm tired like all the time, I sleep probably 13+ hours a day and it never seems to be enough. Didn't think to mention that to Dr, I guess I never thought much of it. I just felt like my tiredness and nausea were just normal pregnancy stuff and I never worried about it much. I feel like I eat fairly often, its hard to believe that I am potentially not taking in as many calories as I am burning, hence the ketones. Hm. I told the dr. that and she just kept pushing the anti-nausea meds. I just said I'd come back for IV if I threw up more, then she shut up and left the meds alone lol.

No problemo ducks x i can see where u think that this is all normal pg stuff. But like u it appears to me that this is a whole new world we have entered and the picture is far bigger than just ourselves now. And stuff that i never batted an eyelid at before has all new meanings now. Like Tink just explained ( much better than myself i might add lo) u really must attempt to eat and especially drink more. And possibly the anti sickness meds will help.I ended up on them too, like u i was pretty reluctant to use them, but boy on a couple of occ they bloody well saved me. And remember no dr worth their salt would prescribe anything that could harm either urself or little one xx

 

[Tinkerbellxxx]

Morning Phoebe

Its slightly different in diabetics, when your body can't make use of the glucose you eat as energy (due to lac of insulin) it will burn fat stores. The waste product or this is Ketones. In cases of severe morning sickness, the body could use the glucose contained in food but the person is unable to eat them resulting in the same situation (the body gets energy from the fat stores and Ketones are produced as a waste product in the process) In both instances, large amounts of Ketones can result in acidosis (where the body is poisoned by the waste product 'Ketones') Which is the danger Phoebe is describing.

However since we know hopes is unable to eat very much, its is much more likely that the Ketones have been produced because she is unable to eat, not that she cannot break down the glucose she is eating, if you get me? So It shouldn't mean she is of a higher risk of gestational diabetes. Having said this that nail varnish breath can be a sign that the body does have a high amount of ketones floating around, so be on the look out for that anyway.

Apart from anything else, simple dehydration is harmful to you both....so

HOPES, ya gotta look after yourself now OK?! Awwwwww honey, sorry if I've come on strong too, but I wanted you to warn you and help you x

 

[Hopes314]

tink dont say sorry! i'd rather you guys be real about these things! I'll make an effort to reallyyy eat and I'll keep an eye out to see if I'm improving or not. If not, I won't leave it more than another couple days before calling dr back and.. I guess.. just taking whatever meds/fluids she wants to stuff in me.

 

[phoebe]

Hope your app goes well hopes! x

LadyB, awww Thanks honey, I think I really wanted a girl. I didn't realise how much till she said it was pink then I cried x

Poppy, might have to join you with some more pancakes tomorrow, any excuse x

Phoebe, have you strapped a teddy in yet? well ya gotta test it x

New bump pic on the way x

Greetings Tink xx
Loving the bump, so cute lol. And dr Pheebs prescribes that one eats more pancakes!! Nom nom Pancakes are the order of the day/week for me. Nowt like having shrove tuesday everyday at the mo And yes Eeyore has been strapped into the new wheels!! Looking most cute methinks Funny thing about bumps, i saw a friend yesterday who i last met 2 wks ago. And he said crikey u have popped bumptastic!!! All feeling more real now xxx

 

[Tinkerbellxxx]

Awwwww hopes, do you know in my half asleep morning state I forgot your a student nurse, you know this....... Opsy, ah well we all got a lesson from Dr Tink You have got your head screwed on, I just know I'm like you, I know the risks and whats going on, but I am a rotten patient. I never take my own blooming advice

Feel better soon honey. zzzzzzzzz I am not with it this morning at all x

 

[phoebe]

Morning Phoebe

Its slightly different in diabetics, when your body can't make use of the glucose you eat as energy (due to lac of insulin) it will burn fat stores. The waste product or this is Ketones. In cases of severe morning sickness, the body could use the glucose contained in food but the person is unable to eat them resulting in the same situation (the body gets energy from the fat stores and Ketones are produced as a waste product in the process) In both instances, large amounts of Ketones can result in acidosis (where the body is poisoned by the waste product 'Ketones') Which is the danger Phoebe is describing.

However since we know hopes is unable to eat very much, its is much more likely that the Ketones have been produced because she is unable to eat, not that she cannot break down the glucose she is eating, if you get me? So It shouldn't mean she is of a higher risk of gestational diabetes. Having said this that nail varnish breath can be a sign that the body does have a high amount of ketones floating around, so be on the look out for that anyway.

Apart from anything else, simple dehydration is harmful to you both....so

HOPES, ya gotta look after yourself now OK?! Awwwwww honey, sorry if I've come on strong too, but I wanted you to warn you and help you x

Well thats me told too Hopes hehehe, think we've both been told off slightly by Dr Tink hehehe! xxxx But all advice is gratefully received so tyvm. Like i said i only know really from my perspective, so thanks for the heads up Tink xxx

 

[Hopes314]

hehe its ok tink, i dont remember much at all about ketones other than what's associated with diabetes. I doubt I ever learned anything about ketones in pregnancy specifically. (And if i did I'm sure i didnt care nearly as much to remember it as i do now lol)

 

[phoebe]

And ur right, peeps in the medical profession, be that drs, nurses, hcsws and the like are the worst patients in the world

 

[phoebe]

Is that Dum dum i spot at the bottom of the page??? Mornings Dum dum xxx

 

[mothercabbage]

:wave: all.....hope your all well...sorry you feel so shitty hopes..it will pass soon im sure stop talking of pancakes im going to PUUUUKKKKKEEEEEEEE i do like them but im green today. it usually passes after a brew and some toast...but not had any yet....gotta go do some.... to all xxxxxxxx

 

[mothercabbage]

Is that Dum dum i spot at the bottom of the page??? Mornings Dum dum xxx

morning
hows mi dum dum....im a bit green and in the fog today... xx