TTC #1 AL Buddies 2016 Newcomers Welcome

[BronteForever]

Oh Trying, I'm so sorry Hon. Huge hugs to you. I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through and really hope you can get help elsewhere and figure out what's causing the recurrent miscarriages. Hugs. Hugs. Hugs.

 

[MissYogi]

Trying I'm so so sorry to hear that. I so hope that they can help you figure what's going wrong

 

[Trying4first1]

Thank you ladies. I am going to call the clinic on Friday once we have had the miscarriage.
I feel I am ready to have it now. I have felt sick all day and I no longer wish to feel this way as there is no reason for me to now.
I am going to the hospital tomorrow afternoon to get some misoprostol to induce the MC. I am terrified as I have heard that it is so painful. But a D&C is not an option for me anymore as 3 would be too many. Just want it over with now so I can move on with my life xx

 

[lesondemavie]

Trying - I did miso with my MMC in February. It was a pretty easy process for me, but I was thankful for the norco. I did it at the start of the weekend, so I had the rest to process and relax. Meeting our baby, although hard, was actually a good moment for closure for us. I hope all goes as smooth as possible for you. Take care

 

[Trying4first1]

Thanks Les.
I have been given some codeine which I can take alongside paracetamol. Then two hours after can top up with ibuprofen. I can take the codeine and paracetamol every 4 hours.
I havn't taken any meds yet as nothing is happening. Will take as soon as the cramps start.
Good luck with everything

 

[Trying4first1]

Ps. I go to the recurrent miscarriage clinic mid- end of Jan. They are sending me out another appointment.
Going to loose the weight I have gained and focus on that now
No more TTC for us now until we have answers xx

 

[kmpreston]

That sounds like a good plan and January isn't too far away. I'm a little surprised they don't want the embryo from this pregnancy to run genetic tests on though, I thought that was protocol for a fourth MC. Definitely better for you that they don't do that you don't need a d&c

 

[Trying4first1]

Hi KM
January will soon be here. Will only be 3-4 weeks into the New Year 😊
We had genetic testing done on our last embryo and it all came back perfectly clear and was healthy. So this one would probably be the same so we didn't see the point in the testing this time round. Also I didn't want another D&C.
Just now praying the MC is complete. I'm not sure if it is as it seemed pretty easy
Keeping everything crossed

 

[RichieesMom]

oh trying.....im so so sorry. i will keep u in my prayer tonight before bed, if u dont mind.

 

[Trying4first1]

Thank you Richeesmom. That is so sweet and kind of you

I spoke to the nurse and she thinks the MC is complete. Just feel so lucky that it was easy for me without much pain. I go for a scan in just over a week to check that everything has cleared. Fingers crossed!

 

[Sweetkat]

Thank you ladies. I am going to call the clinic on Friday once we have had the miscarriage.
I feel I am ready to have it now. I have felt sick all day and I no longer wish to feel this way as there is no reason for me to now.
I am going to the hospital tomorrow afternoon to get some misoprostol to induce the MC. I am terrified as I have heard that it is so painful. But a D&C is not an option for me anymore as 3 would be too many. Just want it over with now so I can move on with my life xx

Really sorry for your losses. I have also had 3 losses and the NHS is quite good at doing most of the tests - I have had quite a few with them and a few at a private clinic. After spending 6 months and a fortune on tests we know that we have no issues apart from OH has 52% Dna fragmentation, I have slightly elevated NK cells and a small septum.

Try to get a referral to a recurrent miscarriage clinic at the hospital where you had the D&Cs.

We had karyotyping done, clotting, thyroid profiles and some other stuff. I also had a 3d scan and my OH had a sperm DNA fragmentation test.

Big hugs and hope we both get our BFPs in 2017.

Also, if u and OH don't have children you might qualify for IVF on the NHS??? Worth investigating.

Big hugs

 

[Trying4first1]

Thank you sweetkat and also sorry for yours.

We had testing at the start of the year on the NHS but all was normal. Had all the normal bloods, hysteroscopy and the fetal tissue was tested. We were just sent away to try again.

I am now going to be seen by a specialist recurrent miscarriage clinic. St Mary's in Paddington. Was meant to go last month but I couldn't as we were pregnant.

Where did you go for the sperm DNA fragmentation test? My DH has never had a SA as they said there is no point as we can get pregnant. But I heard that bad sperm can cause RPL.

We would get one free go with IVF but I'm not sure it would help? Conception seems to be ok (even though it takes a long time) it's getting them to stick past 6-7 weeks

 

[BronteForever]

Trying - I'm still so sorry you are having all this happen to you. I really wish they could figure out what's causing the RPL so they know what to do for next time. Hugs again!

 

[lesondemavie]

Trying - Could you do IVF with PGS? I follow Tim&Celeste on YouTube. They've also gone through multiple losses and seem to conceive fine on their own. I think PGS is her next step. She had one frozen embryo left without PGS but it didn't survive the thaw.

 

[Trying4first1]

Thanks Bronte.
It is just so frustrating. We won't be trying again until we have answers. If we dont get answers then I have no idea. I am guessing IVF with genetic screening etc. We will see what St Mary's say first. If they come up with nothing we will then get tested for NK cells. Will will pay for every test going.
Just so glad our appointment is very soon 😊
However went for my check up and I have some retained products. They giving me another two weeks to see if it resolves. It should do as it is quite common after taking Miso

 

[Trying4first1]

Hi Les!
I started looking into that and it may be an option if nothing else is found or if there is something wrong with DH sperm.
Thanks for the tip. I will look them up. I follow a couple of people on you tube as good to see their journey.
Hope you are well and over the worst in the first tri

 

[BronteForever]

With recurrent pregnancy loss I honestly would only do IVF if you combine it with PGS/genetic screening. You'll get much more valuable information out of the process. Otherwise it wouldn't be worth it in my opinion.

However they have tested materials from your previous pregnancy, right? And didn't find anything abnormal? PGS primarily helps find embryos that are genetically normal and can hopefully survive preganancy but I thought you had more of an issue with your body itself fighting the pregnancy. PGS probably won't help with that. But like I said you'll get much more valuable info and be able to cross off one possibility of what could be causing your issues.

I have no clue how they handle genetic screening in the U.K. but it's pretty standard here now and it adds about $5,000 to the process which comparatively speaking isn't ton. So if you can get one cycle paid for and still need to pay for genetic testing out of pocket, it can be doable.

 

[lesondemavie]

Ah that's true Bronte. I forgot about the previous testing.

 

[Trying4first1]

Hi Bronte.
That was my thoughts exactly. Normal IVF would be a waste of time and wouldn't make a difference in our case.

Yeah the last test on the embryo came back normal. However DH still hasn't had a sperm analysis. Would any potential issues have shown up in the fetal karyotype? I am tying to make sense of everything and trying to figure out which avenues we need to explore. There are so many thugs that it could be. I guess I need to get the testing at St Mary's out of the way first and take it from there. I just don't think they will find anything but at least it rules stuff out.
I think PGS would be doable if we needed it. We get one cycle funded in my county which helps a lot.

I have started to feel better in myself until 2 days ago. My friend messaged me telling me she was pregnant. She had literally just got married 2.5 months ago so wasn't expecting it so soon. And to make things worse we were due around the same time. Obv it's great she has had no issues and all is well but I just feel completely gutted as I will be looking at her knowing it should have been me too. It has also made me realise that we have got major issues. We have been trying for so long and have had all these losses. Yet others fall pregnant at the drop of a hat and all is ok.
I guess it's just made me feel useless and has bought up all those feelings again. Literally all my friends are now mums and it gets me down as we have been trying the longest and everyone else has had such an easy time.

Has anyone else had any experience with this?
I know it will get easier but right now it sucks

 

[Trying4first1]

Les I subscribed to Tim and Celeste
It's weird how they are quite similar to us in a way. Conception wise they seem to take a while like us but can do it on there own. I will continue to follow. I also follow a couple of others too.
It is helping me loads as the emotions they are feeling are so like ours. Makes me realise it's all normal