Warning All Pregnant Women: Miscarriages From H1N1 Vaccine As High As 3,587 Cases

[blutea]

It didn't take inflammatory articles to convince me to avoid the vaccine while pregnant. A friend of mine had her baby die in the first trimester at the time of her shot last fall.

When I read the manufacturer's package inserts, I was alarmed that it was being pushed on pregnant women at all! Every manufacturer has pretty much the exact same wording in their warnings.

Read for yourself:

Vaccination with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine may not protect all individuals.

5.4 Limitations of Vaccine Effectiveness

Neurological disorders temporally associated with influenza vaccination, such as encephalopathy, optic neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis, and brachial plexus neuropathy, have been reported.

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.3 Nursing Mothers

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.

8.4 Pediatric Use

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

I really appreciate this post debsbaby. The pharmacutical company admits to the truth no matter how the CDC and other pro vaccine advocates try to manipulate the facts.

 

[Saywhat]

It didn't take inflammatory articles to convince me to avoid the vaccine while pregnant. A friend of mine had her baby die in the first trimester at the time of her shot last fall.

When I read the manufacturer's package inserts, I was alarmed that it was being pushed on pregnant women at all! Every manufacturer has pretty much the exact same wording in their warnings.

Read for yourself:

Vaccination with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine may not protect all individuals.

5.4 Limitations of Vaccine Effectiveness

Neurological disorders temporally associated with influenza vaccination, such as encephalopathy, optic neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis, and brachial plexus neuropathy, have been reported.

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.3 Nursing Mothers

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.

8.4 Pediatric Use

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

I really appreciate this post debsbaby. The pharmacutical company admits to the truth no matter how the CDC and other pro vaccine advocates try to manipulate the facts.

Furthermore who the hell trusts pharmacutical companies?
Money grabbing, unethical F*****S!
But thats a whole new thread.

How you feeling hun? Ignore the insults. x

 

[blutea]

It didn't take inflammatory articles to convince me to avoid the vaccine while pregnant. A friend of mine had her baby die in the first trimester at the time of her shot last fall.

When I read the manufacturer's package inserts, I was alarmed that it was being pushed on pregnant women at all! Every manufacturer has pretty much the exact same wording in their warnings.

Read for yourself:

Vaccination with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine may not protect all individuals.

5.4 Limitations of Vaccine Effectiveness

Neurological disorders temporally associated with influenza vaccination, such as encephalopathy, optic neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis, and brachial plexus neuropathy, have been reported.

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.3 Nursing Mothers

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.

8.4 Pediatric Use

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

I really appreciate this post debsbaby. The pharmacutical company admits to the truth no matter how the CDC and other pro vaccine advocates try to manipulate the facts.

Furthermore who the hell trusts pharmacutical companies?
Money grabbing, unethical F*****S!
But thats a whole new thread.

How you feeling hun? Ignore the insults. x

I'm feeling quite irritated and bashed by this thread but I guess it happens sometimes. Thanks for asking. It's comments like yours that help me realize it's okay to have my own opinion, even when it's an unpopular one.

 

[Saywhat]

It didn't take inflammatory articles to convince me to avoid the vaccine while pregnant. A friend of mine had her baby die in the first trimester at the time of her shot last fall.

When I read the manufacturer's package inserts, I was alarmed that it was being pushed on pregnant women at all! Every manufacturer has pretty much the exact same wording in their warnings.

Read for yourself:

Vaccination with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine may not protect all individuals.

5.4 Limitations of Vaccine Effectiveness

Neurological disorders temporally associated with influenza vaccination, such as encephalopathy, optic neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis, and brachial plexus neuropathy, have been reported.

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.3 Nursing Mothers

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.

8.4 Pediatric Use

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

I really appreciate this post debsbaby. The pharmacutical company admits to the truth no matter how the CDC and other pro vaccine advocates try to manipulate the facts.

Furthermore who the hell trusts pharmacutical companies?
Money grabbing, unethical F*****S!
But thats a whole new thread.

How you feeling hun? Ignore the insults. x

I'm feeling quite irritated and bashed by this thread but I guess it happens sometimes. Thanks for asking. It's comments like yours that help me realize it's okay to have my own opinion, even when it's an unpopular one.

Well just because you may be/feel in the minority doesn't entitle you to less of an opinion. I just couldn't believe all this over cutting and pasting an article. I may sound like a granny now - but - what has the world come to! Glad your feeling better anyway. xx

 

[blutea]

It didn't take inflammatory articles to convince me to avoid the vaccine while pregnant. A friend of mine had her baby die in the first trimester at the time of her shot last fall.

When I read the manufacturer's package inserts, I was alarmed that it was being pushed on pregnant women at all! Every manufacturer has pretty much the exact same wording in their warnings.

Read for yourself:

Vaccination with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine may not protect all individuals.

5.4 Limitations of Vaccine Effectiveness

Neurological disorders temporally associated with influenza vaccination, such as encephalopathy, optic neuritis/neuropathy, partial facial paralysis, and brachial plexus neuropathy, have been reported.

8.1 Pregnancy

Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA. It is also not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.

8.3 Nursing Mothers

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in nursing mothers. It is not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or AFLURIA is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.

8.4 Pediatric Use

Neither Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine nor AFLURIA has been evaluated in children. Safety and effectiveness in the pediatric population have not been established.

I really appreciate this post debsbaby. The pharmacutical company admits to the truth no matter how the CDC and other pro vaccine advocates try to manipulate the facts.

Furthermore who the hell trusts pharmacutical companies?
Money grabbing, unethical F*****S!
But thats a whole new thread.

How you feeling hun? Ignore the insults. x

I'm feeling quite irritated and bashed by this thread but I guess it happens sometimes. Thanks for asking. It's comments like yours that help me realize it's okay to have my own opinion, even when it's an unpopular one.

Well just because you may be/feel in the minority doesn't entitle you to less of an opinion. I just couldn't believe all this over cutting and pasting an article. I may sound like a granny now - but - what has the world come to! Glad your feeling better anyway. xx

It surprised me too. It wasn't like I was confronting them to their faces and yelling at them to listen to me. It was a thread, they could have ignored it if they wanted to. And I had no idea it was unacceptable to post an article without my personal comments. Who makes these rules?

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

I wasn't judging you my post was a resonse saying you two may not see eye to eye which is clear.

Happjigail- Babies are cute, even cuter when they become toddlers
xx

 

[aob1013]

Is this still going on

You girls are dedicated! x

 

[blutea]

Is this still going on

You girls are dedicated! x

More scarcasm?

 

[aob1013]

Oh lighten up would you!

It was a lighthearted comment in GENERAL, not at YOU. Stop taking everything so personally. It even had a kiss on the end

Anyway as PP said, if you have a problem, please PM me and stop singling me out in threads, you'll only dig yourself deeper

 

[lexi_is_ttc]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

 

[aob1013]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

 

[blutea]

Oh lighten up would you!

It was a lighthearted comment in GENERAL, not at YOU. Stop taking everything so personally. It even had a kiss on the end

Anyway as PP said, if you have a problem, please PM me and stop singling me out in threads, you'll only dig yourself deeper

I did not see a kiss at the end, I saw an "x" so that must be what you mean by a kiss, then.

I have no interest in PMing you. You posted your comments here and so can I. I am not digging myself anywhere, especially not into a hole. I'll just ignore your comments now.

 

[lexi_is_ttc]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

No, no. I beg YOUR pardon. Was I speaking to you directly? It was a generalized statement, not meant at all towards anyone specifically. I'll speak as blunt as I see fit, seeing as everyone else is.

 

[aliss]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

No, no. I beg YOUR pardon. Was I speaking to you directly? It was a generalized statement, not meant at all towards anyone specifically. I'll speak as blunt as I see fit, seeing as everyone else is.

For the record, I personally did not get the H1N1 vaccine when pregnant or even after. So I'm not here with a pro-vaccine agenda.

With that being said,

There is more than enough to show that not getting the vaccine can be very risky to your fetus if you got H1N1. And yes, there are some studies suggesting there may be a link to the vaccine and miscarriage (although credible scientific studies overwhelmingly favour getting the vaccine).

To say that people are risking their child's life by getting a vaccine, but that you aren't because you aren't getting the vaccine, is pretty insulting. The scientific studies point towards getting the vaccine. Reports like the one in the OP (which is from a dodgy source) are not as supported by actual clinical trials. The post implies there are issues with reporting data, not that X leads to X.

So there is no need to imply that the girls here are risking their child's life when the exact same thing can be said for yourself.

 

[Saywhat]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

No, no. I beg YOUR pardon. Was I speaking to you directly? It was a generalized statement, not meant at all towards anyone specifically. I'll speak as blunt as I see fit, seeing as everyone else is.

LOL.
Oh i kind of like your bluntness, and i totally agree with you that the warning should have been suffice to stop the tirade on this occasion. And on the fact that regardless of the original research post (whether or not the source was allegedly utter crap or not) that there IS plenty of research to say that there is a risk of miscarriage. I keep coming back to this - why would anyone take an untested/under tested drug? We are humans not sheep.

 

[Mummietobe]

I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life,

what a horrible thing to say!!! This thread is beyond a joke now and its getting way too offensive!

 

[SKATERBUN]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

Been reading through these threads on immunisations for weeks now as I'm doing my research due to LO having her first batch at 8 weeks.
I didn't realise that there were so many people out there against vaccines.

On topic though, I had a letter about swine flu jabs while I was 12 weeks pregnant and declined the invite as not from reading 'scaremongering' stories but just the literature my Drs posted with the letter. Stuff like mentioning there were trace elements of mercury in the jab etc and mentioning side effects reactions and un forseen risks with having the jab whilst pregnant.
The risks of having the jab are 'supposed' to be less then actually contracting swine flu. A mother suffering from Swine flu as we have been told is supposed to a greater harm to an unborn child.

TBH I had a friend who supposedly had been in contact with 'swine flu' I went through the whole of winter coming in to contact with various other people who had contracted it and was lucky enough not to have caught it.
In the end it was debatable whether people knew the actual difference from normal winter flu (or a common cold!) and the real swine flu that was going around in Mexico.

I agree Lexi, I wouldnt want to put something that was so new and quickly manufactured in reaction to this outbreak in my body even if I wasnt pregnant.
Animal studies are pretty inaccurate tbh. And no I dont wish to be a 'pharmeceutical company's guinea pig'. Which raises the question how do we trust vaccines? Do we all have to take a gamble and hope they are right. Do we accept they know best and are not just out to raise a quick buck. They can only be sued if there were to be a mass outbreak of reactions, but individual cases where people have been apparently harmed cannot be dismissed. Theres always the 'what ifs'.
There seems to be so many cases now of side effects/abnormalities and they cant all be bandwagon jumpers/ compensation hungry people.

I'm just a bit confused by it all really, no i dont want to be at risk from disease, but I also dont want to be told to trust in something unknown that could also detriment my health.

 

[aob1013]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

No, no. I beg YOUR pardon. Was I speaking to you directly? It was a generalized statement, not meant at all towards anyone specifically. I'll speak as blunt as I see fit, seeing as everyone else is.

I never said you were talking to me directly

However, i do urge you to think before you post such a cruel thing that will of course upset the Mum's who had the vaccine - twist around and people could say that you have risked your childs life by NOT having it. Works both ways i guess hun

 

[lexi_is_ttc]

First off, to the people who are calling the OP 'irresponsible' for posting this thread- She clearly posted the word 'warning' in the thread title. If anything, YOU are irresponsible for opening the thread. Next time if these things offend your sensibilities, skip over it. Otherwise stop complaining. I personally am grateful for threads like these. It's nice to know about these things, whether or not the source is credible. And if you do a little thing called research, this isn't the only article out there that links the H1N1 vaccine to miscarriages.

Personally, I wouldn't put that shit in my body even if I wasn't pregnant. I'm not the pharmeceutical company's guinea pig. And I certainly wouldn't expose my unborn baby to it, ESPECIALLY because of articles and studies like this. I guess some people are okay with risking their child's life, but I'm not. My doctor mentioned the flu shot and I refused on the spot. I've never had a flu shot in my life anyway and funny, I've never gotten the flu.

I beg your pardon?

No, no. I beg YOUR pardon. Was I speaking to you directly? It was a generalized statement, not meant at all towards anyone specifically. I'll speak as blunt as I see fit, seeing as everyone else is.

For the record, I personally did not get the H1N1 vaccine when pregnant or even after. So I'm not here with a pro-vaccine agenda.

With that being said,

There is more than enough to show that not getting the vaccine can be very risky to your fetus if you got H1N1. And yes, there are some studies suggesting there may be a link to the vaccine and miscarriage (although credible scientific studies overwhelmingly favour getting the vaccine).

To say that people are risking their child's life by getting a vaccine, but that you aren't because you aren't getting the vaccine, is pretty insulting. The scientific studies point towards getting the vaccine. Reports like the one in the OP (which is from a dodgy source) are not as supported by actual clinical trials. The post implies there are issues with reporting data, not that X leads to X.

So there is no need to imply that the girls here are risking their child's life when the exact same thing can be said for yourself.

To each their own. I'd like to think that my daughter is healthy because I HAVEN'T put any chemicals & medicines inside of my body. If you look at the 'clinical studies,' a lot of the people who have died from H1N1 put off seeing a doctor when they got sick. That's not even just pregnant women, that's people in general. Certain studies are saying that quite a few most likely wouldn't have died if they had gotten treatment. With that being said, I'll take my chances with the flu. If I get sick, I go to the doctor right away. I'd rather have a bout of the flu that can be cured versus a vaccine that isn't 100% safe for ANYONE to put in their bodies, pregnant or not. I'm stating my opinion. I'm not saying that everyone else isn't entitled to their own body & baby.

 

[peanut56]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say that someone is putting their child's life at risk is completely unnecessary. Whether someone chooses to vaccinate or not, they are doing what they think is best for their child based on their own research and opinions. I am all for vaccinating, but I would NEVER say a woman who is against vaccinating is putting her child's life at risk - no one takes issues like this lightly.