August loss thread - TTC our rainbows!

[Mrsmac02]

Thanks Aayla. I expected it. Started off so positively (I felt like crap!) but as soon as I felt the symptoms stop, I knew it was coming. Got a scan on Monday but hopefully it'll start to happen before then.

This year I need to focus on my health before I try again x

 

[bubbles82]

Oh no, so sorry Mrsmac, I hope you're wrong but I know our instincts usually aren't.

I was meaning to ask you earlier, did your herbalist lady ever give advice in relation to Agnus Castus? There is so much conflicting info on if it should be taken every day or just up until ovulation, and likewise if it should be stopped as soon as you get a BFP, continued daily, or weaned off.

I've been using coconut oil as I remembered you mentioning it a while back, and grating carrots into everything! I don't even have any idea why I'm doing it but figured it can't hurt to get a few extra veg in!

 

[Mrsmac02]

Thanks bubbles.

Yes, she gives me liquid agnus castus which I take continuously and up to week 13 of pregnancy.

Coconut oil is brill for fertility - it's something to do with the molecular structure of the oil. And as for grated carrots, they help to rid the body of excess oestrogen as it binds it. Anything that supports the liver to function properly is good for hormone balance too, like calves liver (if you can stomach it - I can't!) high quality chicken liver pate and milk thistle supplements X

 

[c beary83]

I'm sorry mrsmac. Hope it is a false alarm.

 

[c beary83]

What do you do with the coconut oil? And the grated carrots? Is there a certain part of the cycle to take them?

 

[Mrsmac02]

No eat them all the time! Coconut oil is great for roasting root veg, using as a base for curries, Thai dishes etc when stir frying veg, chicken or prawns etc. I also randomly drink it in coffee (need a milk frother or it sits as a yucky film on top) and in smoothies.

Grated carrot I have through salads and in soups.

There's a tonne of other good dietary advice she's given me, like eating gluten free where pos, eat plenty of eggs of you can manage then, lots of very sweet fruit like mango, cantaloupe melon etc; eat organic if you can; don't eat vegetable oil or processed meals, especially fried food from the takeaway - sunflower, canola, rapeseed oil and ghee is really bad for blocking your thyroid x

 

[Mrsmac02]

And cheese - have cheese and very sweet fruit for breakfast a couple of days a week, it really speeds up your metabolism and is good for getting rid of the dangerous middle fat round your tummy!

 

[danser55]

im sorry mrsmac I hope you are wrong

 

[Aayla]

Ugh totally gutted. Got my progesterone test back. 20.5. While I still ovulated it is not a high number for 7dpo. When I got my bfp it was 69.3. I know it doesn't predict pregnancy and i know it can fluctuate through the day and some sites say it is better to get it done first thing which I was doing but this time I had to do it at the end my day due to the holiday and my work schedule. I didn't want to let it determine if my hopes go up or down but it has. But it is still just a waiting game. 9 more days to go. The longest 9 days of my life.

 

[bubbles82]

I just can't get my head around the coconut oil thing, is the idea to eat as much as you can rather than just replace bad cooking oils with it? I've been reading about how it's meant to be good for you when it's so high in fat, but still can't get my head around it! It's amazing how many things you can hide a grated carrot in though, we had loads spare at Christmas and I've put them in chilli, spag bol, in salads, and in a chicken chickpea and spinach dish we have when trying to be healthy! I don't even know if I need to work on lowering estrogen but guess it can't hurt! The cheese thing is weird too when most places tell you to avoid it to be healthy. A site I was reading had cheese and chocolate as the top two things to lower miscarriage risk, sounds crazy! But I've been having a square of dark chocolate every day since!

I found a good deal today for a nutri ninja blender so we'll be going smoothie mad when that arrives, could be expensive though with all the fruit and veg I'll need to buy to keep that going!

Thanks for the AC advice, reading back on my first journal I stopped the AC completely when I got my BFP with DD, and continued it with two of the three mc, so it's hard to know what to do for the best even though it probably wasn't linked to the losses. I looked at the liquid form this time but ended up just sticking with the tablets which worked for me before.

Sorry if your results were disappointing for you Aayla, I can't really comment much as I don't really know anything about all of that side of things. Hopefully you'll get your BFP soon and won't need to worry about it x

 

[c beary83]

Are the grated carrots better cooked or raw? I prefer mine raw

 

[Wishing_well]

Can I join you lovely ladies please?

We've been TTC for around 18 months now and I've suffered several losses - one in February and again in September, and far too many chemicals to count! We didn't have a problem previously so I'm so confused! Our first was easy to conceive and the youngest took 8/9m due to breastfeeding. (Also took AC to help)
I've been referred to a specialist but have no idea what to expect, and I have no one else to talk to as they don't seem to understand!

 

[c beary83]

Hi wishing well

I know how you feel. I've been struggling with infertility for the last two years with only two bfps which ended in miscarriage

I've found This site really supportive as no one really understands unless they've been through it

 

[Mrsmac02]

Hi wishing well! Sorry for your losses, hope you'll find the thread really helpful! X

C beary - I have mine raw and cooked. Raw in salads and cooked through things like soups, spag bol sauces etc. I tend to grate a couple of carrots every few days and just add a handful in here and there.

Bubbles - Re coconut oil, I just replaced veg oil with it so not setting out to eat more oil than I normally would if that makes sense? And I know what you mean about fat but it's a good fat! I don't know the ins and outs but is something to do with how your body processes it compared with vegetable oils.

I quite literally cook with it and stick a bit in my coffee or a smoothie in the morning so I prob eat about 2-4 teaspoons a day. Some days I don't eat any. I'm not mega strict with it.

I also use organic butter and a tiny bit of extra virgin olive oil (the only vegetable type oil my herbalist recommends) for cooking and spreading (I don't use spreads like flora etc anymore) because coconut oil isn't good for cooking certain things as it can flavour it. I tend to avoid using it for things like egg and red meat dishes. I like it best with roasted root veg and Thai dishes.

I'll dig out some recipes if you like? X

 

[joo]

Sorry MrsMac, I will be thinking of you tomorrow I hope everything turns out ok at your scan xx

I have been wanting to try coconut oil for ages but when I first heard of it it wasn't available in supermarkets and I could get it from H&B' s but was ridiculously expensive. Is it cheaper and more widely available now?

Welcome, Wishing well xx

 

[c beary83]

Hi wishing well! Sorry for your losers, hope you'll find the thread really helpful! X

C beary - I have mine raw and cooked. Raw in salads and cooked through things like soups, spag bol sauces etc. I tend to grade a couple of carrots every few days and just add a handful in here and there.

Bubbles - Re coconut oil, I just replaced veg oil with it so not setting out to eat more oil than I normally would if that makes sense? And I know what you mean about fat but it's a good fat! I don't know the ins and outs but is something to do with how your body processes it compared with vegetable oils.

I quite literally cook with it and stick a bit in my coffee or a smoothie in the morning so I prob eat about 2-4 teaspoons a day. Some days I don't eat any. I'm not mega strict with it.

I also use organic butter and a tiny bit of extra virgin olive oil (the only vegetable type oil my herbalist recommends) for cooking and spreading (I don't use spreads like flora etc anymore) because coconut oil isn't good for cooking certain things as it can flavour it. I tend to avoid using it for things like egg and red meat dishes. I like it best with roasted root veg and Thai dishes.

I'll dig out some recipes if you like? X

Thanks mrsmac. That would be great. Hope everything goes well tomorrow x

 

[sailorsgirl]

Hope things go well tomorrow Mrsmac xx

 

[Aayla]

Not much new to report. Think I have a cold. Someone came to the new year's party extremely sick. So much so that the hostess told me to stay away from her since I might be pregnant. Really? Who allows someone to come like that? I am almost feverish and a bit stuffy. These could also be pregnancy symptoms. I didn't get proper sleep today to do my temp properly but I have been taking it throughout the day and the highest it got was 37.37 Celsius. So not high enough to be a fever but high enough for a triphasic shift?

I want to test on Wednesday but I'm not sure what day I ovulated so I am not certain of my DPO. If I ovulated on cd 17 then wednesday would be 14dpo, if I ovulated on cd 18 (where I put it) then I am 13dpo but if I ovulated on cd19 like last cycle then I am only 12dpo. Tuesday night / wednesday morning is the soonest I can get a test and I thought of testing when I get up wednesday afternoon. Or should i still wait?

 

[Mrsmac02]

Well, blow me down with a feather - I was wrong! Just seen a teeny tiny baby with a strong heartbeat. Not out of the woods yet, never will feel like a 'safe' time, but for now, mini Mac mark II is ok x

 

[kakae]

Wahoo! Great news Mrsmac!