Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

[aidensmommy1]

Jess, there's actually tons and tons about AF causing rocky/wacky temps all over google. I originally read about it on both of the top used charting sites...ff and I cant remember the name of that other charting site atm...but then I also asked doctor google and alot of ppl, including myself some cycles, get wacky temps during af but not all women get wacky temps. Like everything else ttc, it depends on the person but ive seen more people have wacky temps than not. Maybe your hormones are just extra stable . That def isn't a bad thing for when u can officially start ttc again! It due from the adjustment of hormones and estrogen starting to take over again but the progesterone can take longer to leave some womens bodies which can cause rocky temps. Google can prob explain it better than me lol. My temps actually got more stable the past 2-3 months after taking prenatal vitamins for a while, b-6 and then the vitex..now I usually dont have to discard that many crazy temps at the beginning of my cycles because they've been pretty nice lately. Watch now that I said that, my temps wil be crazy when AF starts this time lol I always feel like I jinks myself.

 

[aidensmommy1]

Also, I'm just going to wait and see if I miss AF ive decided. I only have to wait one more day and hopefully I can save my frer digi for another cycle lol. I already used both my line tests when i said i was only going to use one until AF. I lose control. And I'm taking charge! LOL. Idk why but the month of August for a bfp keeps popping in my head randomly. Maybe its a sign. I realized today that if i get AF tomorrow and I O by CD11 next cycle, i could POSSIBLY get a bfp on my bday June 2nd like i did with Aiden...id only be about 8-9dpo but if i got an early bfp it could be possible lol. FX! (i still have this gut feeling for August tho! That's when my bff was suppose to start trying...maybe it was swapped up and I'm the one that has to wait until Aug haha)

 

[aidensmommy1]

https://ovufriend.com/graph/cdf94007a9edf6b0f67df87ab4da6faa

According to ovufriend is am about 8 dpo. Lol

how did it even read ur chart?! Lol is it just going by previous cycles?

 

[mdscpa]

Good morning ladies! Yeah I think I see that shadow line on her FRER, which looks grey to me right now. Maybe in a few more days..

I woke up like 10 minutes before my alarm (6 am which is my earliest temping time, sometimes I temp closer to 6:45) and so my temp has an open circle- my dog wouldn't let me get 10 more minutes of sleep but I wasn't even tired. So it is a little lower, whatever that means. 9 dpo. Not testing still. Atleast I have work to keep me busy today

Now im confused. Period just stopped after 1 and a half days. My period is usually 4-5 days 7 the longest but rarely. This one is the shortest ever period i have. And have felt cramps again on my right i don't have this cramps once i started my period. I think fertilaid messed with my usual cycle and symptoms. And i haven't noticed any clots yet which i always see from day 1-3? short cycle, short LP and now short AF? DH told me to just go to the doctor and get checked.

last cycle I has a day and a half long AF and it was a very light flow the whole time. Sometimes when u spot it can cause a lighter/shorter AF. Last cycle I spotted some before AF and for a few days after my HSG which I found out was probably the cause of my light AF. But w the fact that u got AF at 9dpo makes it more likely that it Could have still been IB. Id still do a cheap test in about 2 days just to make sure that it wasn't IB. You'd be surprised at how many women I know personally that got short "AF" or even normal AF type bleeding for days, wks or even months and still were pregnant with a healthy baby. I ALWAYS use an .88 cent test 5 days after AF starts JUST to be sure. Like I said, its very common as well to have a wacky AF even if urs is usually normal so this is prob the case :-\ BUT its def worth taking a cheap test to make urself feel better. I'm guessing with that temp drop it was short AF. I hope u have TONS of luck this cycle hun!!!

I will try to take frer tomorrow with fmu to rule out pregnancy. I'm having the worst cramps now on my right side usually if it's af its the whole area not on one side. I hope its otherwise i might think it's ectopic because of the cramps and my temp rose again above my last cycle's CH.

Usually during the normal 3-5 days when AF is around your temps will be wacky. Alot of women dont even temp at that time because of how wacky they are. The exact thing happened to me last cycle, I stopped bleeding and the next day my temp spikes up past my previous CL and it was due to AF (even tho she disappeared, u still have the wacky AF time hormones going on. If u can get a cheap dollar test that'd be best just so I dont waist a frer. It'll prob be neg since AF just came but I do it for safety because I have very high risk of ectopic:-\. GL hun!

I find your comment about wacky AF temps interesting. Mine are pretty consistent from AF to o and then from o to AF unless I go tri phasic, but even those are consistent.

Mdscpa - I understand being worried about AF being weird. If taking another pregnancy test will ease your mind, I'd say go for it. I think you were taking vitex for the first time this cycle. That could have thrown your cycle off a bit, giving you a weird period. I would definitely give your doctor a call about your LP. It's possible they will want a few more months data using temping and opk's just to make sure though. I've seen quite a few women on here that think they have a short LP, and after collecting data figure out it was just a wonky cycle.

In the bottom pic, I actually see a pink line and same with the top. I have gotten a light pink frer evap before tho so this is probably the case again. Whether it's frer or the best brand in the whole world, I wont believe it unless it has a at least some what of a dark line. I don't think there's a test I haven't had an evap on. Darn evaps! But we'll see. If no AF tomo a.m, I'm going to whip out the frer digi FX!
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure ill be starting a new cycle tomorrow and then I'll only have this coming cycle and june/july's cycles and ill be back to actively trying . I haven't even scheduled my 2nd hsg yet but I'm feeling like the original 3 months of enzymes that I planned to take before the HSG will work exactly as planned FX extra tight for that! So i better call my doc this week to set it up in advance. I hope u all have a great day!

The digi frer has a sensitivity of 10 I read, making it the most sensitive digi. Good luck. Do you feel like AF is on the way?

I haven't taken any tests yet so planning to take one of my frers tomorrow..... But of course, i'm not expecting any just want to rule out pregnancy and that this is just a crazy cycle for me.

 

[aidensmommy1]

I was just analyzing my chart and my temp is right where it usually is the day before AF comes so I'm sure she'll be here tomorrow which is Ok. I kind of feel better now knowing that because I was soo worried about ectopic because if my enzymes have even worked at all yet, I'm sure only part of the blockage would be gone right now, if any. I kind of feel relieved for once. Maybe next cycle will be my time . I decided im upping my dose of serrapeptase for 40,000iu/day to 80,000iu/day. You actually cant take too much of this because its just a natural enzyme but I was told 40,000-120,000 is the common recommended dosage. My herbalist in my town said if I take 2 40,000iu capsules per day rather than 1 that it would help it work faster/better so its worth a shot I was trying to make my bottle last the full 3 months (lol) but ill just have to order another bottle. $10/bottle isn't bad at all, especially if ill be getting a baby out of it in the end :-D FX!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Good morning ladies! Yeah I think I see that shadow line on her FRER, which looks grey to me right now. Maybe in a few more days..

I woke up like 10 minutes before my alarm (6 am which is my earliest temping time, sometimes I temp closer to 6:45) and so my temp has an open circle- my dog wouldn't let me get 10 more minutes of sleep but I wasn't even tired. So it is a little lower, whatever that means. 9 dpo. Not testing still. Atleast I have work to keep me busy today

Now im confused. Period just stopped after 1 and a half days. My period is usually 4-5 days 7 the longest but rarely. This one is the shortest ever period i have. And have felt cramps again on my right i don't have this cramps once i started my period. I think fertilaid messed with my usual cycle and symptoms. And i haven't noticed any clots yet which i always see from day 1-3? short cycle, short LP and now short AF? DH told me to just go to the doctor and get checked.

last cycle I has a day and a half long AF and it was a very light flow the whole time. Sometimes when u spot it can cause a lighter/shorter AF. Last cycle I spotted some before AF and for a few days after my HSG which I found out was probably the cause of my light AF. But w the fact that u got AF at 9dpo makes it more likely that it Could have still been IB. Id still do a cheap test in about 2 days just to make sure that it wasn't IB. You'd be surprised at how many women I know personally that got short "AF" or even normal AF type bleeding for days, wks or even months and still were pregnant with a healthy baby. I ALWAYS use an .88 cent test 5 days after AF starts JUST to be sure. Like I said, its very common as well to have a wacky AF even if urs is usually normal so this is prob the case :-\ BUT its def worth taking a cheap test to make urself feel better. I'm guessing with that temp drop it was short AF. I hope u have TONS of luck this cycle hun!!!

I will try to take frer tomorrow with fmu to rule out pregnancy. I'm having the worst cramps now on my right side usually if it's af its the whole area not on one side. I hope its otherwise i might think it's ectopic because of the cramps and my temp rose again above my last cycle's CH.

Usually during the normal 3-5 days when AF is around your temps will be wacky. Alot of women dont even temp at that time because of how wacky they are. The exact thing happened to me last cycle, I stopped bleeding and the next day my temp spikes up past my previous CL and it was due to AF (even tho she disappeared, u still have the wacky AF time hormones going on. If u can get a cheap dollar test that'd be best just so I dont waist a frer. It'll prob be neg since AF just came but I do it for safety because I have very high risk of ectopic:-\. GL hun!

I find your comment about wacky AF temps interesting. Mine are pretty consistent from AF to o and then from o to AF unless I go tri phasic, but even those are consistent.

Mdscpa - I understand being worried about AF being weird. If taking another pregnancy test will ease your mind, I'd say go for it. I think you were taking vitex for the first time this cycle. That could have thrown your cycle off a bit, giving you a weird period. I would definitely give your doctor a call about your LP. It's possible they will want a few more months data using temping and opk's just to make sure though. I've seen quite a few women on here that think they have a short LP, and after collecting data figure out it was just a wonky cycle.

In the bottom pic, I actually see a pink line and same with the top. I have gotten a light pink frer evap before tho so this is probably the case again. Whether it's frer or the best brand in the whole world, I wont believe it unless it has a at least some what of a dark line. I don't think there's a test I haven't had an evap on. Darn evaps! But we'll see. If no AF tomo a.m, I'm going to whip out the frer digi FX!
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure ill be starting a new cycle tomorrow and then I'll only have this coming cycle and june/july's cycles and ill be back to actively trying . I haven't even scheduled my 2nd hsg yet but I'm feeling like the original 3 months of enzymes that I planned to take before the HSG will work exactly as planned FX extra tight for that! So i better call my doc this week to set it up in advance. I hope u all have a great day!

The digi frer has a sensitivity of 10 I read, making it the most sensitive digi. Good luck. Do you feel like AF is on the way?

I haven't taken any tests yet so planning to take one of my frers tomorrow..... But of course, i'm not expecting any just want to rule out pregnancy and that this is just a crazy cycle for me.

Mdscpa, did u start vitex last cycle? Or were u on ur 2nd cycle of the fertilaid? I just noticed jrepp mentioned u taking vitex so i figured id ask. I know there is some vitex in the fertilaid/fertilitea but not much. Maybe that's what she meant. Its so hard to keep up sometimes! Lol. But even tho sometimes its hard to keep up, I'm so happy we have built a strong group that will stick together through it all . I keep saying to dh "why can't all my baby making friends live near us?! And then u could hang out with their dh's!" lol. I think the whole friends thing is a big reason I want to move so bad. Dh and i both dropped all of our old friends because they're still into drugs and partying and drama and we've grown waayy past that phase in our lives. We want to go to a new state where we can start over and meet new GOOD people To hangout with. Around here, everytime we THINK we meet some cool people, they end up being opiate addicts and with dh and i being recovering addicts of 3yrs, we CAN'T hang out with those people or we could be putting ourselves in potentially bad situations. Im just so grateful we both beat that disease that we dont want to do a single thing to ruin it...even if it.means we are each others on friend lol. It seems like we were the only ones around here that were able to excape from that life and its sad :-\. Anyways, I wish one of u girls lived in Mass or Maine! Lol . Well i got completely off topic of vitex haha.

 

[Jrepp]

https://ovufriend.com/graph/cdf94007a9edf6b0f67df87ab4da6faa

According to ovufriend is am about 8 dpo. Lol

how did it even read ur chart?! Lol is it just going by previous cycles?

Random temps throughout the cycle and the opk

 

[mdscpa]

Mary, i haven't tried vitex just fertilaid. I checked ur chart and it really looks like it's going downhill like ur previous cycle. Like you i told DH the same thing about our DHs hanging out together and us as well, lol

 

[aidensmommy1]

https://ovufriend.com/graph/cdf94007a9edf6b0f67df87ab4da6faa

According to ovufriend is am about 8 dpo. Lol

how did it even read ur chart?! Lol is it just going by previous cycles?

Random temps throughout the cycle and the opk

oooh yeah I completely missed the +opk. I'm not very similar with that particular charting site. Maybe ill try it just to see if it differs from what FF tells me every cycle

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mary, i haven't tried vitex just fertilaid. I checked ur chart and it really looks like it's going downhill like ur previous cycle. Like you i told DH the same thing about our DHs hanging out together and us as well, lol

yeah it def does. I'm pretty sure om out. My bbs are a tiny bit tender today. Ill be very happy to only have sore bbs for one day before AF from now on! Lol I hope it stays like this for me. I still have no cysts but their just a little bit tender. I'm not having normal AF cramps yet but that was another thing I never really got before I started getting cysts in my bbs. I really think the vitex helped my pms symptoms in general. I love how its natural so it'll still work after u stop taking it once ur body is regulated. Any way, I am very happy with my lack of symptoms this cycle. My chart was the only thing that was really making me think there was a chance lol damn temps! Better luck next time for all of us who got bfn's! June will be a lucky month...that's the month I got my positive with Aiden after a year so it must be lucky lol. Good luck ladies!!

 

[Wishing1010]

Sorry I've been MIA! Spent my downtime registering for school

Mdscpa, I see you have peak ferning today! Very interesting!!!

And I still have FX for you Mary!

That's funny about your chart, Jess!!!

 

[AmySan]

So, is there a chance that I could be pregnant even though I haven't had sex in a month? lol I got a yeast infection last night which was a nice touch. Luckily caught it early...I had a few after my miscarriage, but before that, never. Well, I got one after I did the medical abortion when I was 20, stupid.

I wish I had been more together back then...I really was so irresponsible and didn't think about long term stuff...never went to the follow ups after the abortions i had...which I highly regret now...both the abortions and not going to the follow ups...ugh.

I asked Mike if he wanted to do dinner tonight, but he has his meetings this week...tues and weds. I miss being able to just go over there after work and wait for him I did so much, too...I would iron his clothes and clean and put away laundry. I am going to make such a good wife one day lol.

So last night my back was fricking killing me still...I told my Mom I fell...which I didn't...but that I hit my back...I don't know why it is still hurting so damn much So we went to urgent care and the doctor was super nice and gave me some somas and percocet. I am going through these prescriptions way too fast...He told me I needed to take 5 days off of work and lay down as much as possible...Yeah, that obviously can't happen...he also said that ice after 24 hours is bad, only heat..I have been doing both now for nearly a month since that nerve ablation. I am so pissed at my dr...Not only for saying it wouldn't hurt...lie...Doctors in the hospital said at least a month...and not giving me anything at all...I am probably going to get 'fired' or whatever from the pain clinic because i had to sign something when i first went there that i wouldn't get prescriptions from other doctors...but if your pain doctor won't give you anything for pain..what are you supposed to do? I told my PCP the other day that I HAD to see him (he is the one who helped me for like, 6 months, but at the end had me on 210mg of oxycodone a day) they treat me like an addict and not a person with chronic pain. Anyway, I had said to him how much he hurt my feelings and that with nowhere to turn when my foot was SO bad (the hospitals had on file NOT to give me ANY sort of pain medicine because of both of these doctors) that I almost started looking for heroin or something. I mean seriously, what so you do?

Mary, I have everything crossed for you! As you all know I don't temp so reading those things means nothing to me, but it would be amazing if you got your BFP!

I hope you all will stick around here...even after you are all pregnant and even have babies I don't want to be all alone I'm starting to consider going to a sperm donar or something. Which it's obviously too soon to resort to that...but...ugh. It sucks.

Work has been sooo hard to stay focused on today. Once I get on the phone with people, it just flows, but it is like, the phone is a thousand pounds right now...I have noo desire to do a single thing I hate being in pain...and I hate this emotional pain My due date is right around the corner...June 1...and last year I got myself a kitten (for those of you who are my facebook friends, Kermit, lol, the brownish chunky one) and more than anything I am tempted to get another one....like...to the point of looking on craigslist, sending texts, and thinking about just picking one up. I love kittens. And cats. But I have 4. Mike would be pissed, my mom would kill me...ugh. And if things don't work out with Mike....people think it is crazy I even have 4..if I had 5...yeah. I know I can't get a kitten every year of my baby's due date. I just realllly want one, lol. Would it be horrible?

Glad the day is almost over. Met up with the lady whose son hit my car, she gave me the $500...I feel bad since she came into the office while I was in the hospital. But she was super nice.

Also talked to a woman last night who just got her master's in clinical psychology and is starting a new DBT group that is realllly cheap and close by, especially compared to other groups. $30 a week, Friday nights. About 2 miles away. Most of them are at least $65 per session, with an intake session of at least $135, and far away...and insurance won't cover most of them because they aren't typical intensive outpatient programs, being after work and less than 3 times a week. Sucks.

I got to talk to my Blue Cross counselor (after you kill yourself enough times they assign you to a phone counselor for a year, they call like, every 2 weeks) My year is almost up...so another lady has been trying to reach me now..lol...she doesn't sound as nice. But my good one (Amanda) is going to look into some new therapists for me and do more research on the DBT stuff.

I hate being so ready for work to be over, but once it is, I am going to just be sad and lonely. ... This morning (my mom comes down in the basement every morning to get me up...which is nice since I have such a hard time waking up on my own...still..lol...I have no idea how I lived on my own for so many years...) but she turns the tv on for the cats which is adorable, but they really don't care, haha...anyway...stupid 'i didn't know i was pregnant' was on while I was getting ready. I used to love that show...but it really just depresses me now.

Love you girls!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Amy feel better hunny! Stay strong girl and it WILL ALL GET BETTER! I see a very bright future for you . I you!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Still no sign of AF for me...ive had a few cramps/pinching feelings today but not like that AF diarrhea feeling I get. Hopefully ill skip that part of PMS too lol...thatd be nice . Ill keep u all posted. Usually AF comes either FIRST thing in the a.m or by noon so I should have a def answer for this cycle by then. I'm almost certain AF is coming even with the lack of AF symptoms.
And if June isn't my month, my moms, sisters, or nieces bday will be right around my test day 2 cycles from now. My moms bday is July 12th, her oldest daughters bday is July 13th, and my sisters oldest daughters bday is July 14th. Its so crazy how that worked out! My mom and sister seriously were like baby making machines tho! Lucky lucky women! Maybe their bdays will bring me luck if mine.doesn't FX!

 

[Megamegan]

Ugggghhhhh I was all sure of myself and convinced I wouldn't POAS, and then I got impulsive, and God punished me... lol. My CBE digital didn't work. It gave me a book sign. I was like, oh no you di'int. But, it did. Then I was like, oh, I didn't do it right, so I looked up the directions and did the other one (at that point I had lost all control) and IT GAVE ME ANOTHER BOOK. Eff you, clear blue! You suck!

So then, I was like, well that's just my sign that I need to not pee on anything else. But what did I do instead? I went to the Dollar Tree and bought the last pregnancy test in the store. I was mad there was only one, and I was like, I'm gonna wait til tomorrow morning to take it. But you all know what I did. I peed in a cup with a no-hour hold, and I used that stinkin test. And it was negative.

That's what I get. NO MORE IMPULSIVENESS!!!

Here's my test like 20 or 30 minutes after the fact. Whatever shadow there might be, it's not positive. I didn't want to be staring at imaginary lines, but I couldn't stay strong any longer. lol.

 

[Wishing1010]

Hahaha, Megan!!! I'm so sorry but it is funny and ironic! Stay away from the pee sticks!!!! FX you see good lines in a few days, and your future Digi tests are not duds

Mary, I'm still holding out hope for you!!!!!

 

[Megamegan]

Hahaha. Thanks Kenna. I had a headache earlier that has now turned into a migraine. I just took a Fioricet (my miracle migraine pill). Also all day whenever I swallow a pill (like my vitamins) I have had a weird reflux type feeling in my GI tract. Whatever. Lol. You guys are the best. I am the biggest hypochondriac- not "afraid" of being sick, but just sorta always over analyzing my body. TTC makes it 10 times worse.

I'm gonna sit here and watch Armageddon (classic) and let this pill work its magic. Hope you all are having a lovely Wednesday evening.

Edit: Don't apologize, I'm over here laughing at myself too. Today my therapist told me I need to start working on "thought stopping" because I am obsessive, a perfectionist, and need to be in control (that's why I'm good at being a classical musician but it doesn't work for all areas of my life!!). Maybe I can do that with my urge to POAS, too. "I want to get an FR-" "STOP". See?

 

[Wishing1010]

Amy, I'm sorry your back is giving you such troubles! I really hope they can get you straightened out. What exactly happened to make your back hurt like that?

FX for everything else in your life as well I would hold off on another cat, we have 4 as well! I got the last one to fill my TTC needs. And he is amazing! But I don't think either of us need 5 cats and a baby! Lol maybe spoil your current kitties with some new stuff! I would love about 10 cats haha!!

 

[Megamegan]

By the way Amy I want to concur with Wishing that you should find another way to fill the void- no more cats! I know the feeling, I love them and used to want more all the time, and now that I have a dog I always feel the urge to get another one. But we can't manage it quite yet so we are waiting. Have you tried rearranging the furniture in your bedroom? That can always be stimulating, at least to me. Point being, you should do something that is new, something that is a project, but not an expensive one, and something that will make you feel refreshed and accomplished. Another thing that might make you feel good is doing something to help others. Look online for some kind of volunteer opportunity. Maybe something that completely takes your mind off of babies. You could do this on the weekends and it might make you see life from a larger picture, and helping people can really work wonders for our own happiness. I think you have a big heart and a lot to offer and I think you'd feel really good giving your time and energy to something you feel is a good cause. I think I should take my own advice, too, but I'm a bad example. Just something for you to think about. Who knows, maybe that will introduce you to new friends (sober ones) as well. Even just one new friend could lead you into a new direction in your life. You might not agree with this idea, but that's where my thoughts took me, and maybe it's something you can let simmer for a while and see how you feel. I teach private music lessons and it's amazing when I go in feeling depressed and come out feeling amazing because I just watched a kid get inspired and improve on their instrument, all because I was there. It's extremely rewarding.

I'm rambling now! Have a great night ladies

 

[aidensmommy1]

Kenna, ive seen charts where women actually had really rocky temps pre O and then after O they had flat temps that were lower than the pre O temps and still o'ed/got a bfp. Maybe that's going on with u....the flat temps are definitely a new thing for u. FX!!
BTW, have u gotten a new thermometer at all in the past few months? Jw cuz that just happened to me and I had to go get a new thermometer so maybe u could try getting a new cheap one and see if ur temp stays stable like it is now..either way I hope u at least oed! Itd make.my entire month if u got a bfp! Lol FX for you!!!
I am falling asleep writing this lol so I better get to bed! Night ladies!!!