Tesh I love your positivity! Two pink lines be amazing!!!!! So want that dream to become reality again!
What is soy in the world of ttc? Does it help with implantation!? I'm very curious 😊
I have a good feeling about this thread too! Come on
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Hi Trying!!
I got this info about soy of a babycenter thread:
"Welcome to Soy Isoflavones For Dummies! Your starter location for info! Soy isoflavones tricks your body into producing more estrogen.
WHAT IS IT? Soya Isoflavones are derived from soya beans. They have been dubbed the natural Clomid, As they work in pretty much an identical manner. Just like Clomid; Soya Isoflavones work by tricking your body into thinking its low on oestrogen. Your body then kick starts production of FSH (Follicle-stimulating hormone) followed by LH (Luteinizing hormone) Which are both necessary to release Healthy Eggs during ovulation. FSH is released at the start of the menstrual cycle; it stimulates the growth of an immature egg into a fully matured egg. When the egg has matured your body then releases a surge of LH. LH is the hormone that tells the ovary to release the egg.
WHEN? You take Soy Isoflavones, like Clomid, on either CD 1-5 , 2-6, 3-7 , 4-8 or 5-9. If you take soy Isoflavones during the later time bracket, for example CD5-9, you shall strengthen the egg that has already started growing producing a healthier egg. The earlier in your cycle you take It, the higher your chance of releasing multiple eggs but these eggs will not be as mature as the eggs grown from taking Soya later. A lot of women will choose the middle cycle (3 -7) allowing time for a strong and healthy egg to develop without erasing the chance of a second egg being developed and released.
1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.
2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.
3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.
4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured alot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.
5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.
DOSE? The dose is really down to you but you should always use the lowest amount that works for you. With Clomid the starting dose is 100mg. Soya Isoflavones are said to be half the strength of Clomid, so it makes sense for the starting dose to be 100mg. The trouble with 100mg of soya is that the capsules tend to come as 40mg. So you have a choice of starting at 80mg or 120mg. I would recommend that if you know that you do ovulate without taking soy then you should start with 80mg. And if you know that you dont usually ovulate you can start with 120mg. Some women change the dose on different days. So they may start at 120mg for the first 3 days then give an extra boost for the last 2 days with 160mg. As I have said though, use the lowest dose possible for yourself. If you ovulate using 120mg/day stick to that for a few cycles. GIVE IT A CHANCE. It is said that it takes 3months to get the full benefits of what you are taking. NEVER EXCEED 200mg/day. DO NOT TAKE SOY ISO AND VITEX AT THE SAME TIME! NOW FOR SOME STATS!!!!
74% of these BFP ladies got it FIRST CYCLE with SI
18% got it the 2nd CYCLE
remainding 8% got it between 3rd and 5th CYCLE!!
ok so the above stats are from Babycentre ladies...i took some time to research other birthboards and see what the stats were like and here they are! (not drilled down by birthboard - just in general)
82% BFP first cycle....11% 2nd cycle....7% between 3rd and 6th cycle
of the 82% of BFP's.....
25% CD1-5.....20%.....CD2-6....52% CD3-7....3% CD4+
1% of ladies on CD1-5 had a MULTIPLE pregnancy
<1% of ladies on CD2-6 had a MULTIPLE pregnancy
2% of ladies on CD3-7 had a MULTIPLE pregnancy
0% on CD4+....(not to say it CANT happen but stats didnt show that it had from what i found!!!)
ok..now for the bit that worries most people...the MISCARRIAGE STATS!!
starting with the 82%..1st cycle......
85% SUCCESSFUL PREGNANCY
of the 15% that miscarried....
12% had suffered miscarriages in the past - pre Soya taking
now the 11% of BFP 2nd Cycle.....
92% SUCCESSFUL PREGNANCY
of the 8% that miscarried.....
6% had suffered miscarriages in the past - pre Soya taking
Doseages from the 82% BFP ladies: (in general over 5 days)
13% took 40-80mg - equal chance of miscarriage
37% took 80-120mg - equal chance of miscarriage
50% took 160-200mg - equal chance of miscarriage
i really hope this puts EVERYONES mind at ease and can help you ladies on that decision of taking the Soya or not!!"
Sorry that was so long! It really helped me understand more about soy isoflavones. I do not think I have a problem with ovulation but I guess it doesnt hurt to try and have a healthier egg!
Haha don't know why I feel so positive.. I guess after trying for so long you figure that there's no point being disappointed for too long. Hell we're all entitled to throw our toys out the cot at some point esp when seeing those darn bfns! But it WILL happen for us. It will happen sooner for some and later for others. But.. it WILL happen.
I REALLY have a good feeling for this thread and this cycle and I think its gr8 we keep the positive baby dust vibes flowing!!!
Is anyone going to be trying anything different from the norm this cycle??