Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

[starryjune]

I've always been a terrible, restless sleeper. I have to take sleep aids many nights (with bipolar it can be especially bad to have a lack of sleep too long). For the past few mornings, I wake up at 5 a.m. - actually, I think it's been happening pretty regularly since DST, as my body was used to waking at 6 and it still is stuck on that or something. But unless the urge to pee is overwhelming, which it only was once this week, I stay still and breathe deep until I fall back to sleep.

Anyway, I am questioning if my chart is even accurate now. I have been getting at least 6-8 solid hours sleep and then often awake at 5, but then ward off the feeling of needing to pee and get one more semi-decent hour of sleep before I wake up and temp at just a little past 6. But one morning, the day I hoped for the Implantation dip, when I woke up at 5 I had to pee so bad, so I temped. It was 97.2 - indicative of a dip. I went back to bed and temped at my normal time and it was almost 97.9! So... now I am sad, thinking maybe there was no real dip and that all these temps taken after I wake up early are overly high/not accurate. Or does having an ongoing history of restless sleep mean the temps are as accurate as can be for my body?

Please, I know I am sounding stupid, but please help. This is such a critical time and my chart has never looked this promising. I am so tempted to test that I actually had pee in a cup this morning. Then I realized how upset I get after a and considered this restless sleep issue and rinsed it down the drain... I have to hold it together at work so any advice or insight you can give, even if it's to say you think my temps are all wrong and should be discarded, please share.

Thanks so much in advance.

Hey June don't feel bad about when you took your temp. It happens and we can't force ourselves to take it at the same time esp. when nature calls... A lot of articles say that when this happen (waking up earlier than your usual temping time) it is better for you to take your temp and use it. Instead of using your second temp when you fell back to sleep and temped again. The first one is closer, if not accurate, to what your temp should be. We use the adjuster if the time difference is more than 30 minutes...

Please note the following:

Temp taken earlier = lower than what your temp is if taken in the usual time
Temp taken later = higher than what you temp is if taken in the usual time

As long as you have at least 3 hours of solid sleep the temp is ok... Only the timing will make the difference. I still believe that your temp yesterday whether 97.2 or adjusted was a clear indication of dip. Implantation or not this usually happens to women pregnant or not, but there's a higher stats of pregnant women having this pattern. The most important temps though are from 10 dpo onwards as it tends to go down if it's so when your temps are going up or staying high from 10dpo MOST LIKELY you are pregnant....

Sorry for the book.

FX this is it....

Thanks so much for the book! OK, so my plan tonight is to do everything in my power to get a SOLID night's sleep and wake up at my usual temping time. But if that fails, I will stay in bed but temp at 5 or whenever I wake up. Then I will go back to sleep and temp again at my usual time, and note the difference. I'd probably then just use the first/early temp adjusted with that tool (like I did on the dip day on my chart - actual temp taken early was 97.2, it adjusted it to 97.4 or something). Then I will either have a full-night's-sleep accurate temp or I will know how much it fluctuates. I am at 10DPO today, so I guess if you're right, tomorrow and beyond are critical temp days... UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[brighteyez73]

Hello ladies,

I need your advise I was testing out trigger and noticed that the test got darker instead of lighter. take a look and tell me what you think please.

Shouldn't it be almost gone? I will probably test a gain Friday to see if any change. Just wanted you ladies opinion.

 

[starryjune]

I will probably get scolded for this but I would say as long as your hours of sleep are consistent, it's fine. I'm a restless sleeper, I toss and turn and DH comes to bed after me which always wakes me up but I'm consistently in bed for 5-6 hours.

I would say however, any temp you took after getting up to pee, I would probably disregard. No matter how I slept, I never get out of bed before taking my temp and if I have to get up earlier or later than normal, I just use an adjuster.

I'm probably not the most religious tester which I think it's ok because it's a "guide". I would just always temp before getting up and always adjust your times when needed.

I use the adjuster too when I actually record a temp taken earlier than usual, and while I did actually GET UP the one day and take it before I peed, that temp was SO low compared to the days before, even the adjusted temp was very low compared to surrounding days, so I am pretty sure it was accurate. I actually take my temp twice most mornings - one as soon as my eyes open, before I move. Then again right after I get out of bed and pee. The temp is always exactly the same or just goes up .1 degree, .2 max once or twice. The only time it changes drastically is between the first waking temp and after a hot shower.

FX tomorrow's temp is more accurate or at least I have the sense to take temps both times I wake up and see WTF the difference is. Man, this whole process is draining!! I am so glad that DH and I have to take a forced break until end of Dec. cuz of solo travels... stupid charts and thermometers and strips and pee in a cup. I'm exhausted!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[mdscpa]

And oh, the most important temps are before ovulation and few temps after O to confirm O happened. After that temping is not that important in knowing your cycle. You'll still get your LP even if you stopped temping after O is confirmed.

However, continues temping during TWW is helpful if you wanna know what's your usual pattern during this time. This pattern is unique for every woman esp. the 2nd half of TWW. An obvious deviation from your usual pattern could be an indication that you might be pregnant so you'll know in advance whether to take a test or just wait for . Temping only gives us clues not confirmation if we are pregnant or not....

 

[starryjune]

And oh, the most important temps are before ovulation and few temps after O to confirm O happened. After that temping is not that important in knowing your cycle. You'll still get your LP even if you stopped temping after O is confirmed.

However, continues temping during TWW is helpful if you wanna know what's your usual pattern during this time. This pattern is unique for every woman esp. the 2nd half of TWW. An obvious deviation from your usual pattern could be an indication that you might be pregnant so you'll know in advance whether to take a test or just wait for . Temping only gives us clues not confirmation if we are pregnant or not....

This cycle's post-O temps are semi-better - I have never gotten such a high temp this time of the cycle, but only the next couple days will tell. If my temps start to drop tomorrow, I'm out. Here's my chart overlay from this month and last - both cycles I temped exactly the same way, using adjusters a few times if I woke up late or early. Should I still be hopeful that these are accurate?

 

[mdscpa]

Hello ladies,

I need your advise I was testing out trigger and noticed that the test got darker instead of lighter. take a look and tell me what you think please.

Shouldn't it be almost gone? I will probably test a gain Friday to see if any change. Just wanted you ladies opinion.

They say, trigger shots stay in your body for up to 10 or 14 days post trigger. But the line should be getting lighter if you test it out. If it's doing otherwise, then maybe you're pregnant? i cant see anything from the other tests but your FRER i def see a line and i guess it's taken today based on the file name of course.

FX this is it hun....

 

[mdscpa]

I like the overlay... If we're gonna follow you last chart I'd say, watch out for a drop at 12dpo. But if your temp that day went up, there's def a chance you got it this time. I mean, being positive won't hurt.... It's how we survive....

 

[brighteyez73]

MDSCPA - Thank you and yes it was taken today. Good catch

 

[starryjune]

I like the overlay... If we're gonna follow you last chart I'd say, watch out for a drop at 12dpo. But if your temp that day went up, there def a chance you got it this time. I mean, being positive won't hurt.... It's how we survive....

Yes, I'm thinking a little drop tomorrow = not the end yet but still not good... a downward trend or big drop on Friday = I'm out.

BUT, being positive... if temps stay stable or even in upward stairs formation, this will be a FIRST and I will be POAS!! The rest of this week better go fast. I just want to know and get on with my life.

 

[SarahLou372]

Just an update ladies...

Went to the bathroom and cm has changed from watery to EWCM!!!



Go Go...!!

 

[mdscpa]

Just an update ladies...

Went to the bathroom and cm has changed from watery to EWCM!!!



Go Go...!!

GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since You don't temp, try to cover the next days for at least another 2-3 days.... We need lots of waiting or finding that egg....

 

[SarahLou372]

Just an update ladies...

Went to the bathroom and cm has changed from watery to EWCM!!!



Go Go...!!

GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since You don't temp, try to cover the next days for at least another 2-3 days.... We need lots of waiting or finding that egg....

To confirm OH as come down with a cold

I was hoping to tonight and tomorrow night as a minimum does that sound like a good plan for now??

 

[mdscpa]

That is perfect.... then skip a day after tomorrow then hit it one more time.... A day break is enough for DH during this CRUCIAL DAYS... Just tell him he can have a TWW rest after all these.. Just not tonight and tomorrow.....

 

[SarahLou372]

That is perfect.... then skip a day after tomorrow then hit it one more time.... A day break is enough for DH during this CRUCIAL DAYS... Just tell him he can have a TWW rest after all these.. Just not tonight and tomorrow.....

I like that its funny... im actually going to say this to him, a tww holiday after.... or I might say maybe even a 9 month holiday!! Not sure if I want to be having when Im pregnant or not yet

 

[Querida87]

Quick update: Because of the pain I was experiencing, the ob wanted to stop. I said I'd rather keep going than reschedule, so he agreed to try again after getting his last three patients out, since it was closing time and they were quick check-ins. I was prepared to scream my way through the removal. But he got called into delivery for a client with complications. So I'm going back today at 3:45. I'm taking a Norco(/nortab/ whatever it's called) about 3 taking and a book and snacks with to settle in comfortably for the wait. FX it gets taken care of so I can start trying this O time. My ob said I could start trying immediately as the mirena was expired and I probably wouldn't have as much hormones in my system, but that I realistically would probably not get my BFP until 2-3 cycles post mirena. Either way, I'm still gonna try. If it doesn't happen, it's still good practice for next time around.

BTW does your temp did post ovulation? Mine is usually between 96.9-97.2 but has never been below 96.9 until today when I logged 96.5. What does that mean??

Mrsbean - JIC I missed saying it, congrats!!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Quick update: Because of the pain I was experiencing, the ob wanted to stop. I said I'd rather keep going than reschedule, so he agreed to try again after getting his last three patients out, since it was closing time and they were quick check-ins. I was prepared to scream my way through the removal. But he got called into delivery for a client with complications. So I'm going back today at 3:45. I'm taking a Norco(/nortab/ whatever it's called) about 3 taking and a book and snacks with to settle in comfortably for the wait. FX it gets taken care of so I can start trying this O time. My ob said I could start trying immediately as the mirena was expired and I probably wouldn't have as much hormones in my system, but that I realistically would probably not get my BFP until 2-3 cycles post mirena. Either way, I'm still gonna try. If it doesn't happen, it's still good practice for next time around.

BTW does your temp did post ovulation? Mine is usually between 96.9-97.2 but has never been below 96.9 until today when I logged 96.5. What does that mean??

Mrsbean - JIC I missed saying it, congrats!!

good luck!!

Alot of times a dip can mean O is near (depending on where ur at in ur cycle) but temps can very for many different reasons. Before O, ur temps will be in a lower range and then ur estrogen surge for O can cause a slight or big dip, which for many women is a great indicator to BD. The day after O, ur temp will rise by at least .02 higher than the rest of the temps and after 3 days of higher temps, you can be fairly certain you've oed. Do you O with the expired mirena in? If so, that could be an O dip. If not, as I said before, temps can randomly dip and spike for many reasons such as sleep disturbance, open mouth breathing, your room just plain being colder, etc. Hope this was the answer u we're looking for! Good luck!

 

[Wishing1010]

Quick update: Because of the pain I was experiencing, the ob wanted to stop. I said I'd rather keep going than reschedule, so he agreed to try again after getting his last three patients out, since it was closing time and they were quick check-ins. I was prepared to scream my way through the removal. But he got called into delivery for a client with complications. So I'm going back today at 3:45. I'm taking a Norco(/nortab/ whatever it's called) about 3 taking and a book and snacks with to settle in comfortably for the wait. FX it gets taken care of so I can start trying this O time. My ob said I could start trying immediately as the mirena was expired and I probably wouldn't have as much hormones in my system, but that I realistically would probably not get my BFP until 2-3 cycles post mirena. Either way, I'm still gonna try. If it doesn't happen, it's still good practice for next time around.

BTW does your temp did post ovulation? Mine is usually between 96.9-97.2 but has never been below 96.9 until today when I logged 96.5. What does that mean??

Mrsbean - JIC I missed saying it, congrats!!

Did the doc get the Mirena out today?

 

[aidensmommy1]

Quick update, I do believe AF is here early. Apparently I had a cyst they believed was caused from O. This is normal when we O but instead of breaking out, it stuck to my ovary and made it look "swollen" in the u/s, is what the nurse said. It was seen on my ultrasound 6dpo and they said that MIGHT be the reason I'm bleeding early or they said we can get "irregular cycles" randomly where AF will show much earlier or later. So maybe last cycle it really did show up late since it was early this time cuz my temps look really weird and off last cycle as well. Its quite a heavy Flow but still looks odd. Idk I'm still confused but finally decided to just call it AF. If its from my cyst, it may just be bleeding so it may mess with how my next cycle looks too but I'll figure it out. I'm hoping this change is LEADING to something good. FX my body is getting used to a working tube! Anyway, I'm so happy I didn't waist a single frer this cycle!! Now there's more for next cycle My OB is going to do another ultrasound in a month or two BEFORE ovulation, rather than after again, so they can see if the cyst is gone or if it's something we need to take care of. I may need to go on bcp for one cycle like I did before I got pregnant with Aiden to get rid of the cyst but I'm really hoping I can skip the BCP, as I worry they'll completely mess up my hormones or clog my tube worse. Ugh. Always so many worries! Something's gota give soon. I have a feeling in my gut that its going to happen any month now. I may get the tubal surgery sooner rather than later if I become MORE impatient than I already am..lol. We'll see what the future brings. I can tell Dhs heart is hurting from all of this too and he's getting impatient as well..he'll never actually say those words to me but he says how badly he cant wait for us to conceive every single day lately and he's been talking about it with his friends more too. Being the one with the fertility issues out of the two of us, I feel even worse. He tells me I should never feel bad about it, I just can't help it sometimes. Anywhoo, I will talk to u ladies soon! I wanted to let u know that it probably wasn't IB that I experienced. If it was, id be very worried. This is heavier than most AFs ever are! Well, good night ladies!
Good luck to all!

 

[cutieq]

I adore your outlook Mary. Hate that it wasn't IB but your docs sound like they know what's going on, you've got a great spirit and you're 100% right .... It won't be long now!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Dani, looks like ur getting ready to O very soon! Ur temps are getting lower. FX for a nise rise very soon and a BFP shortly to follow!