Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

[Megamegan]

Thanks for the update on Amy, Jess. I would imagine all this pain would be enough to convince her not to do it again, at least I really hope so!! Well, I also hope the reason she doesn't do it again is because she is happy to be alive and has much to look forward to. Life is so tough. I have faith she'll make it through.

Jess- I love taking photos especially nature ones When things start blooming more, I'll be doing lots of that with our good camera.

Mary- No, my knees aren't that bad. The left one is fine except I just feel regular old joint pain when I'm standing, or walking a lot, or doing something with higher impact like hiking mountains, jumping, dancing, or running. But my right knee is still not 100% better from surgery which was in January. It isn't bad at all, just have to be careful with it and keep up with rehab exercises. I have so many aches and pains, and so does DH, and I just wish we didn't get old and broken. That's probably the only thing I'm NOT looking forward to as I near my 30's. I have always said my 30's will be the best years of my life because that's when I'll start my family and have enough money and hopefully a house of our own. I hope my body can handle all of the things I want to do in life!!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Megan, I can't even remember what the name of my phone is lol. Its a smart phone but I forget which one. And I'm happy ur knee is okay for the most part. I think you'll be able to do any and everything u want to do through out your life . Your still young and hopefully as time goes on, ur knees will be 100% better.

Jess, yes, I do have my new thermometer marked now lol. I now have a total of three and I mixed up the last two so I made sure I wrote "new" in permanent marker as soon as I opened it lol. I now know the diff between the other two because one is literally stuck at 97.69-97.72 no matter what time of day and even when dh tries it, still the same temp! I'm happy I got a new one and im happy I was smart and was taking mt temp with both thermometers before the new one MOST days so I still have some of the correct temps (or what I think is correct) it was really just the temps the day before O and the day after O that I used both thermometers worried it wasn't right. And I must of missed something about Amy...ill have to go back and read what I missed. Thank u again for all the updates!
Your right about my old FB but I literally have like 500 friends and from my phone, that's alot of ppl to go through and decide who I want to keep lol. I'm going to use my moms computer this wk and just put newer pics and just request the friends I still want on my Facebook all over again. I literally dont want my ex husband knowing anything about my life now so I'm going to be very picky about who I request. I dont want to forget to delete anyone, u know? Ugh, crazy ex's! Lol :-\
And thats awesome about ur new camera! lucky lady! I want a new nice camera soo badly! Ive been thinking about taking photos for people and setting up a FB page for it and have friends or moms from aidens school tell ppl about me. With a nice camera, I think id be very good at taking pictures . We'll see. I want something like that to do to keep me busy until aidens out of school and it'd help us financially at the same time. Ive been thinking about it for a while now but haven't taken that first step yet. Now would be a good time.

 

[Jrepp]

Ok, so Amy will be in the hospital at least one more day.

I am still experimenting with my new camera, but a new youtube video update will be up. Check it out on youtube (I'll post a link here when I get it uploaded) or on eventual momma whenever I get it uploaded.

 

[aidensmommy1]

Just read about Amy. I really hope she feels better soon . It makes me so sad. I hope she finds all the happiness in the world.

 

[mdscpa]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Funny you mentioned about about the second surge. Today's temp made me crazy FF removed my crosshairs after i got a huge temp dip .03 below my cover line. As i said earlier i took opk last night because of the cramping i felt, creamy cm up until today, and it was negative. Now, im not sure if im O'ing today because of the dip. Im just not so happy about the dip at what was supposed to be my 4dpo. Well, i have to wait tomorrows temp....

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Funny you mentioned about about the second surge. Today's temp made me crazy FF removed my crosshairs after i got a huge temp dip .03 below my cover line. As i said earlier i took opk last night because of the cramping i felt, creamy cm up until today, and it was negative. Now, im not sure if im O'ing today because of the dip. Im just not so happy about the dip at what was supposed to be my 4dpo. Well, i have to wait tomorrows temp....

id just bd tonight JUST INCASE but I do still think u already O'ed and u nay actually be getting and implantation dip. That's a huge dip. As long as ur temp shoots back up tomorrow, FF will put ur CH's back. But like I said, id def BD just incase this is more then a surge, u kno? I really think ull get ur CH's back tomorrow tho sometimes when u get a dip so early on, FF wants to make sure its not for O before it makes a definite decision. I was always told since I started temping to bd anytime u see a big dip (even tho u dont need a dip for O, its still helpful when u get them). A dip at 4dpo is very very common as well on both bfp and non bfp charts so I bet it'll be in the higher range again tomorrow. FF just doesn't want u to miss a "possible fertile time" so it removed ur CH's. Once u can temp from the start of ur cycle, it'll be alot easier for FF to interpret. FX ur temp springs back up tomorrow and that u can fit some bding in! dont let it drive u too crazy (lol I know it can be hard not to) because as I said, if u had more lower temps entered in before O, FF wouldn't have removed the CH's after a one day dip. Did u wake any earlier today or was it any colder in ur room this a.m? I think coldness affected my temp this a.m but I'm not certain so I just kept it how it is instead of making it an open circle. I'm experimenting w temping & dif things that do and don't affect my personal temps while I'm NTNP lol

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, I added more to that last post I wrote...i submitted it before finishing

 

[mdscpa]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Funny you mentioned about about the second surge. Today's temp made me crazy FF removed my crosshairs after i got a huge temp dip .03 below my cover line. As i said earlier i took opk last night because of the cramping i felt, creamy cm up until today, and it was negative. Now, im not sure if im O'ing today because of the dip. Im just not so happy about the dip at what was supposed to be my 4dpo. Well, i have to wait tomorrows temp....

id just bd tonight JUST INCASE but I do still think u already O'ed and u nay actually be getting and implantation dip. That's a huge dip. As long as ur temp shoots back up tomorrow, FF will put ur CH's back. But like I said, id def BD just incase this is more then a surge, u kno? I really think ull get ur CH's back tomorrow tho sometimes when u get a dip so early on, FF wants to make sure its not for O before it makes a definite decision. I was always told since I started temping to bd anytime u see a big dip (even tho u dont need a dip for O, its still helpful when u get them)

We're definitely gonna bd tonight and not miss this dip. I wish i can move time faster for tomorrow's temp and i hope it shoots back up. I did some research about huge temp dip and they say it is common to happen around 4dpo and mentioned about the second surge of estrogen. If that's the case i should be expecting to see ferning on my scope too bad i left it in the house with the scope exposed i rushed for work so left it there to dry. Hopefully i can still see something in there....

I hope i'll get my CH's back tomorrow as u said, feels like what you say is what FF does. Are you the FF? Lol, if it does come back i'd wait til you say tomorrow you'll get hahahahahha....

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Funny you mentioned about about the second surge. Today's temp made me crazy FF removed my crosshairs after i got a huge temp dip .03 below my cover line. As i said earlier i took opk last night because of the cramping i felt, creamy cm up until today, and it was negative. Now, im not sure if im O'ing today because of the dip. Im just not so happy about the dip at what was supposed to be my 4dpo. Well, i have to wait tomorrows temp....

id just bd tonight JUST INCASE but I do still think u already O'ed and u nay actually be getting and implantation dip. That's a huge dip. As long as ur temp shoots back up tomorrow, FF will put ur CH's back. But like I said, id def BD just incase this is more then a surge, u kno? I really think ull get ur CH's back tomorrow tho sometimes when u get a dip so early on, FF wants to make sure its not for O before it makes a definite decision. I was always told since I started temping to bd anytime u see a big dip (even tho u dont need a dip for O, its still helpful when u get them)

We're definitely gonna bd tonight and not miss this dip. I wish i can move time faster for tomorrow's temp and i hope it shoots back up. I did some research about huge temp dip and they say it is common to happen around 4dpo and mentioned about the second surge of estrogen. If that's the case i should be expecting to see ferning on my scope too bad i left it in the house with the scope exposed i rushed for work so left it there to dry. Hopefully i can still see something in there....

I hope i'll get my CH's back tomorrow as u said, feels like what you say is what FF does. Are you the FF? Lol, if it does come back i'd wait til you say tomorrow you'll get hahahahahha....

LOL . I wish I was FF! I just am a charting pro at this point lol. I actually had a few job offers to work for those type of companies to be one of their "chart interpreter's". I have to get more info on all 3 of them and figure out if its something I can do from home or around aidens school hours any way. I do it for fun all day, might as well get paid for it lol :-D

 

[mdscpa]

Aidensmommy1 - i took my temp almost the same time. As for the room temperature DH actually increase the AC a little since it was very hot last night i thought earlier that that may have affected my temp.... Little things you do can do alot of mess in your chart, urgh...

 

[aidensmommy1]

Yea it really can. One cycle I wore thin long sleeve shirts to bed instead of a tank top and it gave me the highest temps for those few days that I had ever seen! There's sooooo many things that can affect it. Ull get ur own routine down perfectly soon enough

 

[Jrepp]

I have seen dips at 4dpo on charts before. It's due to the shift of estrogen to progesterone. I think temping internally helps to have less fluctuation due to environmental factors. Charting the first month is actually really difficult because you don't know what is and isn't normal for you. You'll get it all figured out and I bet your next cycle goes a lot more smoothly with temp taking.

 

[aidensmommy1]

I have seen dips at 4dpo on charts before. It's due to the shift of estrogen to progesterone. I think temping internally helps to have less fluctuation due to environmental factors. Charting the first month is actually really difficult because you don't know what is and isn't normal for you. You'll get it all figured out and I bet your next cycle goes a lot more smoothly with temp taking.

I agree . I warned her ahead of time yest about a possible dip at 4dpo because they are SOOO common and I knew itd freak her out seeing it without warning. Today she was like uhh how did u know? I think the CH's prob went away because of the lack of pre o temps so FF just wants to make sure the temp bounces back up tomorrow and make sure its not really O so she doesn't miss a fertile day. Do u agree with that? I do think she's 4dpo today. I remember my first cycle charting, I was asking google questions every hour about my temps lol. Its exciting when u first start it because its like your hormones/what ur bodies doing on paper lol and for the first time u get to see ur true O date and LP and all that good stuff and now if I get a random set of 2 high temps, I know I'm about to be sick in some way. Its cool how it all works. Yep, I'm bored atm if u cant tell lol :-\ just rambling on about how cool charting is lol .

How are u feeling today?

 

[mdscpa]

I have seen dips at 4dpo on charts before. It's due to the shift of estrogen to progesterone. I think temping internally helps to have less fluctuation due to environmental factors. Charting the first month is actually really difficult because you don't know what is and isn't normal for you. You'll get it all figured out and I bet your next cycle goes a lot more smoothly with temp taking.

I agree . I warned her ahead of time yest about a possible dip at 4dpo because they are SOOO common and I knew itd freak her out seeing it without warning. Today she was like uhh how did u know? I think the CH's prob went away because of the lack of pre o temps so FF just wants to make sure the temp bounces back up tomorrow and make sure its not really O so she doesn't miss a fertile day. Do u agree with that? I do think she's 4dpo today. I remember my first cycle charting, I was asking google questions every hour about my temps lol. Its exciting when u first start it because its like your hormones/what ur bodies doing on paper lol and for the first time u get to see ur true O date and LP and all that good stuff and now if I get a random set of 2 high temps, I know I'm about to be sick in some way. Its cool how it all works. Yep, I'm bored atm if u cant tell lol :-\ just rambling on about how cool charting is lol .

How are u feeling today?

You made my day today. When i saw the dip i was like, is this really happening? Should it be really this big dip? And the first person i remembered was you. Even my CH's you predicted when it's gonna show and even told me it might went away after few temps. Which all happened.... Please tell me i'm gonna get BFP this cycle, please please... Now, i'm losing it, lol.....

it's great being part of this forum with all you lovely ladies... I don't feel like i'm in TWW all i do is google about charting, lol.

 

[Wishing1010]

FX crossed for you mdscpa!!!!!

 

[Wishing1010]

Pretty sure I just had O pains!

 

[mdscpa]

Pretty sure I just had O pains!

i hope you get your spike tomorrow's temp. AFM, i just keep on googling about charting and temp dips and rise and editing my signature putting my other charting ticker just to keep my DPO counts that FF removed,

it kept my O date even if i put today's temp.

 

[Wishing1010]

Yeah, it truly is common to have dips like yours. I'm sure you have already O'ed

 

[mdscpa]

Yeah, it truly is common to have dips like yours. I'm sure you have already O'ed

I think the same way. i even have another charting website (ovufriend) recommended by someone on board can't remember who exactly though. That gave me CH the same day without any changes after todays temp. Maybe FF is just so sensitive at analyzing data.

https://ovufriend.com/graph/4b6151214978d57285f519269fdc55c3

 

[Jennuuh]

Pretty sure I just had O pains!

Woohoo! Are you still NTNP?