Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

[cutieq]

Hang in there. It could still just be early.

 

[mommysylvia]

I'm so nauseous.... I never get this way UNLESS I'm pregnant. I refuse to believe I'm not lol

 

[cutieq]

I had bouts of nausea before AF. I guess hormones maybe, but you know your body. Can't wait for your tests!!

 

[melewen]

Mary I'm pretty sure you gave me some tugging today! Been thinking about you as I have been feeling it ALL day! And they say the uterus expands more easily for the second so it could be a good sign for you fx it's a symptom!

Mommysylvia you had two IB's?

 

[aidensmommy1]

I had bouts of nausea before AF. I guess hormones maybe, but you know your body. Can't wait for your tests!!

I agree. As you know Dani, the progesterone (hormone released after O every month) can 100% mimic pregnancy and when we're TTC and in the TWW, we all look for possible signs because of how bad we want it and that causes us to notice things we normally wouldn't have noticed when not paying much attention, u know? (mommysylvia). Over the 22 cycles ATTC, ive learned that u can have every single symptom in the book and without an HPT showing a BFP, it all means nothing until u have that answer . Last cycle I even had a pink line on frer and awesome symptoms and nothing! Ugh! If AF happens to show and those were evaps, id call and get some free tests sent to you, although that cant make up for false hope and the hurt. Its not right how easily evaps show on those WalMart tests. I refuse to use them now because I like letting my tests sit (to compare) and those tests would always give me some sort of purple/pink line, even within the time frame. So after DH and I were completely gutted due to a beautiful line on those tests on our 7th cycle TTC, I will never buy one again, unless I already know I'm pregnant and am experimenting. The way progesterone mimics HCG is completely unfair to us ladies in the TWW as well. I'm def experiencing symptoms but as I said, progesterone can be cruel. Every cycle I seem to notice a new "symptom" .

I'm still crossing my fingers that although u felt O pains, I'm hoping since u felt it in both ovaries at that time that maybe it was just ur body gearing up to O and u likely oed 2-3 days later than expected so AF probably would be due today/tomorrow-ish, unless u oed even later. But I usually get O pains 2-3 days before O and then random pains in between and then more O pains on O day. Its kinda easy for me to point out O pains most of the time because I only have one ovary/tube so when I feel pain on that side, I know what's up lol. Anyway, I wanted to share that u can get O pains before O, during O, and after O so that's why without temping, nobody can be 100% sure when they oed, u know? So u may still be testing early and hopefully you'll still get ur bFp!!! FX!!

Ps, if sadly AF does show, id start temping next cycle, just so u know when AF is truly due for testing purposes and so u know if AF is truly late or not and it'll teach u ur LP length. Most women don't have an LP of 14 days, as many doctors try to tell us due to old textbook data. A healthy LP can very from 11-16 days long & thats helpful info to know about yourself while TTC because it can help detect any issues before getting a doctors help. It mostly helps to make sure ur BDing at the right time during ur cycle and so that u aren't in limbo, wondering why there's no clear BFP or AF yet. We would all be more then happy to help you while u get the hang of temping if its something your interested in trying. I was hesitant to temp but now I'm very thankful I did, as I was off on my O day by a couple/few days. FX your BFP comes before u even need to think about it tho! Hope u get an answer soon hun.

 

[mommysylvia]

Thank you so much! I really want to try and temp...I just have to try to convince my husband to buy me one hehehe. Well as much as I wanted to feel symptoms. I didn't imagine the nausea lol I'm not even lying I was like go away!! I was going to vomit in the car!

As for the O date yes I'm not sure but I look at my notes and it shows I had o pains then two days later I had ewcm at night so I might be around 13dpo? Who knows..... I'll post my symptoms by "guessed" do in a little if you can look over them?

 

[mommysylvia]

Mary I'm pretty sure you gave me some tugging today! Been thinking about you as I have been feeling it ALL day! And they say the uterus expands more easily for the second so it could be a good sign for you fx it's a symptom!

Mommysylvia you had two IB's?

I either had two or it took some days for the rest to come out
I had it from 1/17-1/19 first day it was dark brown...next two days it was a really light brown.. All days just one dime size spot once. Then I had it again yesterday one spot again brown. So confused!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Thank you so much! I really want to try and temp...I just have to try to convince my husband to buy me one hehehe. Well as much as I wanted to feel symptoms. I didn't imagine the nausea lol I'm not even lying I was like go away!! I was going to vomit in the car!

As for the O date yes I'm not sure but I look at my notes and it shows I had o pains then two days later I had ewcm at night so I might be around 13dpo? Who knows..... I'll post my symptoms by "guessed" do in a little if you can look over them?

I'm not saying your imaging ANY of it. Progesterone literally mimics HCG and that can cause nausea and all sorts of stuff. Ive had random puking once or twice in my TWWs not pregnant. It seems like ive had EVERY symptom in my TWW's that I actually remember having with my last pregnancy and no luck yet. . Of course I'm sure SOME symptoms are probably in our heads at times, certain ones like a backache, pelvic pain, skin breakout, nausea, etc, are def not symptoms that we "imagine", as u stated. But i do believe we notice it more AND we put the symptoms with pregnancy since we are TTC and know about what dpo we are, u get what i mean now? I really just wanted u to know that progesterone in a non-BFP cycle can make u feel more pregnant than u might in a BFP cycle. Some women get less symptoms in the TWW when pregnant and some get more. Every one of us are different, as well as each pregnancy we go through. Anyway, i didn't want u to think that i was saying ur imaging any of what ur feeling, again i only mean the two hormones WILL affect you in very, very similar ways and thats why us poor women all go so crazy during the TWW! The progesterone and HCG symptoms should be nothing alike but instead they're practically identical!!! Grr! We seriously cant get even the slightest break during the TWW, unless we see a BFP....that will always make things better .

Still crossing these fingers!

Also, the BBT thermometer is only $10 at WalMart or rite aid, or u can find them on amazon or eBay as well. You just need to make sure it's a Basal body thermometer and that u set an alarm to temp at the same time daily, before u get out of bed, talk, drink, eat...before u do anything other than roll over..lol and you'll know ur body better than ever within a month or two (if no BFP first of course! FX for the BFP!) and that'll make ur BFP come all that much quicker FX FX FX! I'm still really bummed about ur frer. FX for late O and AF not being due yet!!!! I bet u did O the last day u experienced the EWCM. FX!

And yes, id be more than happy to tell u what i thibk after reading ur symptoms GL!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mary I'm pretty sure you gave me some tugging today! Been thinking about you as I have been feeling it ALL day! And they say the uterus expands more easily for the second so it could be a good sign for you fx it's a symptom!

Mommysylvia you had two IB's?

I either had two or it took some days for the rest to come out
I had it from 1/17-1/19 first day it was dark brown...next two days it was a really light brown.. All days just one dime size spot once. Then I had it again yesterday one spot again brown. So confused!

Dont let this worry u, as Its easily fixible but, sometimes spotting during the TWW can be a sign of a hormonal imbalance, such as low progesterone, which would make it hard for the egg to implant properly. Thats why I mentioned the docs to u cuz they can give u a supplement to help the egg stick if ur progesterone happens to be low. I wouldn't worry much about it at this point, unless u continue to get no BFP or AF, then def get checked out but I wanted to let u know so u can watch to see if u spot randomly through out ur TWW in future cycles as well, IF ur BFP doesn't show that is. Somethings making me feel like ur BFP is still coming and maybe u just had the late O as well as a late implanter...? U never know! Crossing these fingers!
I'm sharing tons of info with u because I've spent 22 months researching this stuff like crazy so i LOVE sharing the knowledge ive learned about TTC with others to potentially aid them in conceiving ASAP . Plus it'll save you many hrs on google! Lol I love Dr. google! & While I'm waiting for my tube to work for me, it makes me feel good to be able to at least help others achieve a BFP. Ive been saying it for a while but i truly want to be a fertility specialist down the road . Id love it and i think id just about Ace the tests without even studying at this point lol...I mean, I already have about two yrs of research under my belt and that's a great start to studying! lol.

I need to go to bed. I keep getting that tugging along w AF type cramping and a huge vein popping out of my bb...thats Def a new, weird thing for me. I seriously will faint if we see our BFP the month before our repeat HSG! FX FX FX!!!!

Lots of dust to everyone!!!

 

[mommysylvia]

Thank you, and I know that's not what you meant by that lol I was just saying from my point of view that I definitely didn't imagine it lol. I really do hope we both get our BFP...more you since you've been waiting so long I know it must be really touch. I can't even stand a TWW haha.

 

[mommysylvia]

Here is my essay lol
Some aren't pregnancy related I just noted everything I had that day....


CD 9, 13, 16 BD legs up 15-30 minutes

Cd 9 through 15 - Tons of watery cm (unusual for me)

CD13/O day- right ovary pain sharp, very watery cm TMI so much I had to keep checking, sore thighs, bloating, very fatigue slept in more than usual, itchy skin, started baby aspirin 81mg along with prenatals (hopefully this works...I've had 5 recurrent chemicals)

CD14/1dpo - BD, irritability, itchy skin, very fatigue, watery cm, small backache, bad acne breakout on face, congested

Cd15/2dpo - woke up to a very bad hot flash...I never get them, sore nipples mainly left, noticably bigger areolas with fluid, terrible acne, lightheaded, sticky watery creamy cm, kept wanting to go pee during the day, weird vivid dreams the night before, earache, ewcm at night after bm

1-3dpo - slightly painful twinge / pulling feel under or near my bellybutton lasted about 20 secs, sticky cm but barely anything almost dry unless I touch to check, pain near left ovary almost towards the middle, pain in lower left abdomem/ovary and shooting pains in pelvic area constantly, sensitive left nipple. At night the I got sharp stabbing pains on left side that radiated to vagina OUCH I couldn't stand it, feels heavy in lower part of tummy

2-4dpo - little cm, ear ache, lower part of stomach feels full/heavy, back pain, gassy! constant dull left ovary pain hurt really bad just to stand up or lay down all day, it radiates to rectum and back, left nipple pain is gone now its the right, loss of appetite, pinchy feeling by bellybutton, prominent veins in breasts, heightened smell, glob of oily lotiony cm at night before bed

3-5dpo - thirsty, headache when I woke up, vivid dream the night before, glob of oily lotiony white cm, BLOATED before even eating... I look 3 mos preg! skin breakout again, twinges by right ovary, pelvic pain, pinching by bellybutton

4-6dpo - felt a lot of pressure in my lower abdomen last night couldn't sleep. Tons of pressure and pain in the middle lower part radiating to pelvic area today, I woke up at 6am in pain!!! I hope something good is happening in my uterus lol, gobs of very oily creamy cm unlike ever before, thirsty, backpain, terrible joint pain at night on my whole left arm and hand (I never got that before), fatigue

.....Starting to think I might have a cyst....my stomach feels swollen and I always get pains. I'm very nervous now since were in the middle of nowhere till may because my husband is working out here! :/ Pray its not a cyst

5-7dpo - bloated/swollen stomach...its hard, backache on upper right, dry nose and mouth, very faint BFP I'll try to wait a few more days to take another, stressed, super sharp pain in pelvic area, creamy cm, vivid dreams
(UPDATE: bfp was evap I'm guessing)

6-8dpo - insomnia every night, super thirsty, heavy/swollen stomach, creamy cm, mild back pain off and on the whole day, hurts to wear a bra, lower left abdominal twinges near middle, very vivid dreams!

7-9dpo - lotiony white cm and bloated, super faint bfp or maybe BFN on generic FRER (family dollar brand), constipated, gassy, loss of appetite, sharp pains in uterus or lower tummy when I had to pee, hip cramps
UPDATE: I went to RR to pee, barely anything came out but I did have my IB!! It was dark brown on liner. So ecstatic, I pray this baby stays! @11pm

8-10dpo - small amount light brown spotting, horrible rib and lower/upper right back pain, chest hurts a little feels like bra is too tight but I don't have one on, hungry when I woke up, bloated, twinges in breasts, lots creamy cm, cramps, sharp stabbing shock in pelvic area, heartburn and hot flashes before going to sleep

9-11dpo - BFN FRER, light brown spot (barely a smudge), bloated, watery cm, very hungry but get full quick, cramps, heartburn at night again, started having shortness of breath from now on

10-12dpo - woke up with bad AF cramps, feel wet down there, toothache (random), painful tightening on my right side middle of stomache, very very very faint BFP with first signal cheapie, gassy, starving...just ate an hr ago, twinges on left side, did I say hungry?

11-13dpo - every day I have little shocks going through only my right breast but does not hurt to touch, bloating, cravings, fatigue / exhaustion, appetite increase, gas, left pelvic pain, canker sore since yesterday, lightheaded when I stand up

12-14dpo - Slightly darker BFP with first signal, sharp pinches down below/around pelvic area, still extremely bloated....before TTC I have a flat stomach now it always looks like im 5 mos pg, breaking out bad, brown spot on liner, hot flash or low grade fever, dizzy spells with headache, gassy, nausea after eating a banana before bed

13-15dpo - heavy breasts, headache, starving as soon as I smelled food... made my stomach hurt, BFN FRER, nausea after eating, car sick!! sharp twinges on left side of stomach

 

[mommysylvia]

Just took this now after a 5 hr hold.... So this is an evap?
https://i62.tinypic.com/2cp3kg4.jpg

 

[cutieq]

Looks like I see something there but I'm not certain.

I read through your symptoms and those can go either way. I've had textbook symptoms before and got a bfn and then nada cycles and got a line.

There's definitely a shadow or start of a line on your test.

 

[melewen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krrsmtEfrEc&feature=youtu.be

I wanted to share my reveal video to my parents that we took tonight. They were on prim behavior because they thought I was videoing them for my agency's website so we had to prod a little. But they were overjoyed!! It went perfectly

 

[mdscpa]

Mary, good luck on your 7dpo test tomorrow.....

 

[aidensmommy1]

Just took this now after a 5 hr hold.... So this is an evap?
https://i62.tinypic.com/2cp3kg4.jpg

I cant really tell. It looks like its just the shadow from the dye running across. Because the dye in this brand test is so dark, its very easy for them to cause evaps, even in the time frame. It could still amount to more tho! FX! As I said yest, I refuse to use them because of how easily ive gotten evaps on them . I think frer is probably the most reliable answer at this point for you but like I said, it could still be early! FX FX FX! We're ALL different.

And I agree with cutie about your symptoms...they really could go either way. I have a full thick note book full of TWW symptoms from cycle 5-16 and then I stopped recording so much when my note book got full...lol but anyway, ur list of symptoms are identical to some of my past cycles BUT they're also common in BFP cycles. I'm telling ya, progesterone, the hormone released after O, 100% mimics hcg so thats why there's no way of really saying with symptoms until a test will show BFP.
I do have a feeling that u may have oed around the time when u started feeling extremely bloated. I always look like I'm 3 months pregnant the few days after O from bloating so much lol. Its from the progesterone. It does sound like ur progesterone must be high to cause all these symptoms tho so thats a plus for TTC. Given the fact that I know you cant go to get blood work yet, id wait another wk and if AF still hasn't shown or you still don't see a BFP, go to the ER. My best friend couldn't get a bfp on a HPT with her first pregnancy until she was about 12wks!!! It was soo strange! She Did find out she was pregnant through blood work at 6wks pregnant though. Sometimes it just takes much longer for HCG to enter the urine stream for a test to pick up on it well. I'm willing to bet you oed Later then expected. Before I started temping, id go by opks, o pains, and my cm and I quickly learned after the first cycle temping that I had been timing BD for 3-5 days later then expected. I thought I oed up to 5 days after my real O time So some cycles I was completely missing O. It also took temping to teach me that the time after O occurs, to the time AF would arrive again, will always be the same number of days in between. For example, I have a 13 day LP so I know after I get my temp rise, AF will be due 14 days from that day. Some women have a 10/11 day LP and some have a 15/16 day LP so I'm thinking u oed on day 15, when u last had any sort of fertile cm, and u prob have a longer LP then u thought but I cant be certain without a chart :-\. But that helps explain why maybe its still too early for AF or a BFP. I so wish u could just print out a chart from this month, some how LOL. I want to know when ur actual O day was!! I will say, if ur usual cycle is 30 days or longer, thats a huge indicator that you prob O between CD14-20, depending on ur LP length. Sorry this is so much info at once! So my opinion on ur O day would be CD15 but I'm not an expert, esp when I'm just guessing off of signs only. I hope the mean witch stays away!

Anyway, lots and lots of luck To you!!!! I hope u get an answer very soon! Limbo stinks!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Thanks Daphne!

Melewen, I love that video with your parents! . Awesome memories!

 

[mdscpa]

Mommysylvia, it's not over till it's over.... My previous colleague found out she's pregnant pass 12 weeks... She too can't get a with all the HPTs she took. She then decided to go get checked, the urine test at the clinic came back negative as well... Then they did a scan (transvaginal) and there it was, A BABY... and she's measuring according to LMP.

Edit: She just had her baby boy last September.

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mommysylvia, it's not over till it's over.... My previous colleague found out she's pregnant pass 12 weeks... She too can't get a with all the HPTs she took. She then decided to go get checked, the urine test at the clinic came back negative as well... Then they did a scan (transvaginal) and there it was, A BABY... and she's measuring according to LMP.

Edit: She just had her baby boy last September.

Thats just like my BFF! Except her son is Aidens age . The same happened with her last pregnancy too though (baby boy born in October). She had to get bloods done along with an u/s at 6wks with both pregnancy's as HPTs wouldn't work for her. She even had a mini "period" with her last but she knew something wasn't "normal". I always wish that'd be the case for me when I thought I was out but my temp always proves it to of been AF passing. Whenever dh says "maybe ur one of the "I didn't know I was pregnant" women!" lol and I always think about it and then I say, impossible, my temps tell me so....lol. I have a love hate relationship with temping....more love tho!

NOTE: Mommysylvia, HPTs DID work for her in her other pregnancy's so even though they've worked for u in the past, every pregnancy can differ. This info is for if a BFP or AF doesn't show in a few days tho cuz I really think its just a little early still right now after reading ur symptoms around O time. Usually my fertile cm dries up the day OF O....it'll be watery or EW in the a.m and then by noon it always gets more creamy/sticky and thats when I know ill be seeing a temp rise the next day. We all have diff patterns tho but this would make the most sense as to why u haven't gotten an answer yet, u know? I hope the next wk fly's for u!

 

[mdscpa]

My friend is irregular but she knew something is up so she took HPTs when she never had period in 2 months... she waited til the third month still no af so few more HPTs still negative... That's when she decided to get checked... I didn't believe so much with "I didn't know I was pregnant" til it happened to one of my friends...