Sticking Together Until We All Get BFP's!!!!

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

 

[Wishing1010]

Glad you got a new thermometer!!!!! And crazy that both you and Jess were feeling O pains yesterday! I forgot to temp this morning but it's all good. It's not like we have BD recently lol. Glad you got some fun in last night! DH has asthma and it was acting up really bad last night. He was still willing to do it but I didn't want him losing all of his breath!

We have a festival in our area today, so we are heading up there in a few hours. And then, DH brother is staying in a nearby motel, and we bought him a lot of groceries to try to tide him over. His brother went to jail for being a meth dealer, got out in October, and then went back in for a month for failure to pay some of his fines. He also got a girl pregnant 6 weeks after he got out and now they are expecting a little girl. Anyhow, DH wants to help him get back on his feet but he is broke. We paid $300 for a hotel and $150 in groceries. I feel like we spent too much but DH really wanted to help so I helped as well. Anyhow, we are going to take the groceries up there after the festival.

I bought some cute stuff at hobby lobby and Joann's fabrics last night. I'll post a pic later

FX for all of you ladies, have a wonderful Sunday!!

 

[aidensmommy1]

Glad you got a new thermometer!!!!! And crazy that both you and Jess were feeling O pains yesterday! I forgot to temp this morning but it's all good. It's not like we have BD recently lol. Glad you got some fun in last night! DH has asthma and it was acting up really bad last night. He was still willing to do it but I didn't want him losing all of his breath!

We have a festival in our area today, so we are heading up there in a few hours. And then, DH brother is staying in a nearby motel, and we bought him a lot of groceries to try to tide him over. His brother went to jail for being a meth dealer, got out in October, and then went back in for a month for failure to pay some of his fines. He also got a girl pregnant 6 weeks after he got out and now they are expecting a little girl. Anyhow, DH wants to help him get back on his feet but he is broke. We paid $300 for a hotel and $150 in groceries. I feel like we spent too much but DH really wanted to help so I helped as well. Anyhow, we are going to take the groceries up there after the festival.

I bought some cute stuff at hobby lobby and Joann's fabrics last night. I'll post a pic later

FX for all of you ladies, have a wonderful Sunday!!

this was very nice of u . I do stuff like this for my brother. (the one that's sick right now). He went to jail 4yrs ago for heroin sales but is now clean and everything. Anyways, when he first got out I helped him and even recently I helped them buy a trailer because they were about to he homeless with 4 kids physically living with them and 2 others that visit on wkends. As long as he uses the help wisely, he got very lucky and was basically handed a fresh start. My brother thanked me for the fresh start I helped him with and he obv really wanted help because it all worked . Anyways, got off track...i hope dhs brother can get on the right path and then you won't even care about the money you spent to help him when you see him do something good with his life . I'm a recovering addict (ugh!) and u def need to want help to be helped. Its sad how big of an epidemic it is. Drugs are everywhere these days, more so than when my brothers were younger. And NH was named one of the highest rate for drug use...its sickening considering NH is the smallest state in the US yet we have the highest drug rate! (theres 1 or 2 other tiny states that I always forget about when I say NH is the smallest state in the US lol) That's why you ladies are my only friends lol. It seems like drugs are everywhere and being a recovering addict, its best to completely just stay away! I'm so thankful everyday that I made it through that battle. I got wayyy off track here. It was just touching to hear u did that for ur brother in law because I needed the same thing, people who would help me and believe in me... Just the support alone worked wonders for me . I wish dhs brother the best of luck cleaning up his life, I really do.

 

[mdscpa]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Thank you so much for the info. I tried tweaking my chart by putting a "FAKE" ferning result on May 1 since that was the day i forgot to take a saliva test suddenly FF gave me the solid lines. Attached is a photo of my May 2 ferning. i'm gonna have to remove it again though maybe after temping tom to see what will happen. But at least now i know what's causing the broken lines.

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Thank you so much for the info. I tried tweaking my chart by putting a "FAKE" ferning result on May 1 since that was the day i forgot to take a saliva test suddenly FF gave me the solid lines. Attached is a photo of my May 2 ferning. i'm gonna have to remove it again though maybe after temping tom to see what will happen. But at least now i know what's causing the broken lines.

with u changing the ferning test date, it just gave FF a reason to believe its right. The reason you had those lines is because FF needed another temp or two before it could really be certain of the day because it didn't have enough other signs to go by as well but that ferning test gave it a sign it was looking for to go along w temps. It happens to me all the time. It actually just happened to me. Yest I had no CH's and now today, I have CH's 4dpo instead of the normal 3dpo CH's. I bet it'll all make a lot more sense to u tomorrow when u see tomorrows temp . u prob did O when it says but the dotted lines were there because there's a chance FF will change its mind. If the ferning test was from the day u marked down, then now FF has a reason to be sure rather then having to wait for another temp. U get what I mean? Soon enough ull be a charting pro . (well really, lets hope u don't need to chart for long!)

 

[mdscpa]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Thank you so much for the info. I tried tweaking my chart by putting a "FAKE" ferning result on May 1 since that was the day i forgot to take a saliva test suddenly FF gave me the solid lines. Attached is a photo of my May 2 ferning. i'm gonna have to remove it again though maybe after temping tom to see what will happen. But at least now i know what's causing the broken lines.

with u changing the ferning test date, it just gave FF a reason to believe its right. The reason you had those lines is because FF needed another temp or two before it could really be certain of the day. It happens to me all the time. It actually just happened to me. Yest I had no CH's and now today, I have CH's 4dpo instead of the normal 3dpo CH's. I bet it'll all make a lot more sense to u tomorrow when u see tomorrows temp . u prob did O when it says but the dotted lines were there because there's a chance FF will change its mind. If the ferning test was from the day u marked down, then now FF has a reason to be sure rather then having to wait for another temp. U get what I mean? Soon enough ull be a charting pro . (well really, lets hope u don't need to chart for long!)

Yeah, either that or the no entry on the calculated O date making it hard for FF. I'm not planning to put it there permanently i'm gonna remove it and won't assume of any result it's like i'm lying to myself by putting it there. i also read that having dotted lines doesn't mean your chart is not reliable enough so whether it's a solid or not it doesn't matter.... As long as temps stays elevated than the coverline i'll feel better. What's odd is that i wanted to know my LP which means i wanted to see AF to confirm how long it is, coz if i got bfp definitely im not gonna know my LP this cycle. hahhahahahha.. Maybe this temping thing is making me crazy or just getting my mind off TTC and just give me more knowledge about how my body works.

 

[MarieMo7]

Jrepp - thanks for keeping us updated on Amy. She's got me worried, poor girl.

SweetMelodies- jealous about 2 weeks in Mexico... *sigh*

Wishing - good karma is coming your way. You are good people!

 

[Megamegan]

mdscpa- I was like you when I first started charting temps. It's so fun to see what your body is doing and fascinating that it works that way (when everything's working).

Mary- You crack me up, all this talk about O Glad you got that new BBT, that's one annoying thing about temping because you never know when your BBT is messing up on you.

Kenna- I too am helping someone who's staying in a hotel right now. She's a new girl at work and I'm her sponsor to help her get settled in, and since new people arrive straight from Basic Training and have no car or place to live, the sponsor really has to take care of them for the first week or so. It's exhausting but I'm happy to help. It just makes me super busy! Lol.

 

[Megamegan]

Jrepp - thanks for keeping us updated on Amy. She's got me worried, poor girl.

Megan - jealous about 2 weeks in Mexico... *sigh*

Wishing - good karma is coming your way. You are good people!

lol, do you know something I don't know? I'll take 2 weeks in Mexico! But, I'm not going to Mexico, haha. I don't recall reading who is...

I didn't finish my last post... I was gonna say, I took my temp this morning and it's still in my pre-O temp range, plus I peed on an OPK and it's almost positive so I expect I'll O tonight or tomorrow. This way I'll at least know when to expect my period.

 

[MarieMo7]

Jrepp - thanks for keeping us updated on Amy. She's got me worried, poor girl.

Megan - jealous about 2 weeks in Mexico... *sigh*

Wishing - good karma is coming your way. You are good people!

lol, do you know something I don't know? I'll take 2 weeks in Mexico! But, I'm not going to Mexico, haha. I don't recall reading who is...

I didn't finish my last post... I was gonna say, I took my temp this morning and it's still in my pre-O temp range, plus I peed on an OPK and it's almost positive so I expect I'll O tonight or tomorrow. This way I'll at least know when to expect my period.

LOL, woops! That was SweetMelodies...
Sorry, I totally read that and for some reason inserted your name in there. Well then...I guess we BOTH wish we were going to Mexico for two weeks

 

[Megamegan]

Jrepp - thanks for keeping us updated on Amy. She's got me worried, poor girl.

Megan - jealous about 2 weeks in Mexico... *sigh*

Wishing - good karma is coming your way. You are good people!

lol, do you know something I don't know? I'll take 2 weeks in Mexico! But, I'm not going to Mexico, haha. I don't recall reading who is...

I didn't finish my last post... I was gonna say, I took my temp this morning and it's still in my pre-O temp range, plus I peed on an OPK and it's almost positive so I expect I'll O tonight or tomorrow. This way I'll at least know when to expect my period.

LOL, woops! That was SweetMelodies...
Sorry, I totally read that and for some reason inserted your name in there. Well then...I guess we BOTH wish we were going to Mexico for two weeks

OH I remember now, her in-laws are taking her! You're so lucky, girl! Haha. That sounds awesome.

 

[aidensmommy1]

Megan, I think ur right about o tonight. It looks like u are prob getting ur O dip I hope u get a nice out of the blue surprise

 

[aidensmommy1]

Mdscpa, if you don't see a dip and a second rise, dont get discouraged. U dont need a dip or even a second rise to get a bfp . Ive seen tons and tons of charts that are either flat temps or slow rising temps with no dips of any kind that were bfp charts so u can definitely still be in even without those things being visible on ur chart. An implantation dip is really a myth...nobody truly knows when/if its a dip for implantation or a second surge. Speaking of the second surge, u may see a dip tomorrow or within the next few days. Its called a second estrogen surge (or a fallback rise). Sometimes its visible on charts and sometimes its not. And it happens on both bfp and bfn charts so its another thing that can go either way. I wanted to let u know about that incase u get an early dip and are curious about it figured id answer ahead of time

Thank you so much for the info. I tried tweaking my chart by putting a "FAKE" ferning result on May 1 since that was the day i forgot to take a saliva test suddenly FF gave me the solid lines. Attached is a photo of my May 2 ferning. i'm gonna have to remove it again though maybe after temping tom to see what will happen. But at least now i know what's causing the broken lines.

with u changing the ferning test date, it just gave FF a reason to believe its right. The reason you had those lines is because FF needed another temp or two before it could really be certain of the day. It happens to me all the time. It actually just happened to me. Yest I had no CH's and now today, I have CH's 4dpo instead of the normal 3dpo CH's. I bet it'll all make a lot more sense to u tomorrow when u see tomorrows temp . u prob did O when it says but the dotted lines were there because there's a chance FF will change its mind. If the ferning test was from the day u marked down, then now FF has a reason to be sure rather then having to wait for another temp. U get what I mean? Soon enough ull be a charting pro . (well really, lets hope u don't need to chart for long!)

Yeah, either that or the no entry on the calculated O date making it hard for FF. I'm not planning to put it there permanently i'm gonna remove it and won't assume of any result it's like i'm lying to myself by putting it there. i also read that having dotted lines doesn't mean your chart is not reliable enough so whether it's a solid or not it doesn't matter.... As long as temps stays elevated than the coverline i'll feel better. What's odd is that i wanted to know my LP which means i wanted to see AF to confirm how long it is, coz if i got bfp definitely im not gonna know my LP this cycle. hahhahahahha.. Maybe this temping thing is making me crazy or just getting my mind off TTC and just give me more knowledge about how my body works.

lol I felt the same way when I first started temping (about it makng me crazy) but its just cuz u get excited when u first truly learn what ur bodies doing . And yes it can be 100% fine with dotted lines...there's many things that can cause it but I'm saying in this particular case right now, its because FF is still thinking but yes other things can cause dotted line..EW or watery CM after O can cause the lines to be dotted and same also if u have a neg opm the day of O they'll be dotted because its just kinda to say "hey make sure all ur signs add up or BD for safety because there MAY still be a chance that ur fertile" lol FF likes to make sure ppl catch their fertile time if other signs make it think its potentially off. I don't even enter any cm besides creamy, dry, or stick after O if I get any. As I said, FF isn't always spot on but ive had dotted CH's and it was still correct. Tomorrow they may move and then become solid CH's. I was thinking maybe an open circle caused them for u earlier when u were asking but I realized my temps have some open circles right around O and they still gave me solid ones. What I learned with temping is to just bd and cover the basis JUST INCASE. Ive gotten CH's and had them taken away completely and moved to a way dif date, with lines dotted, or changed a day or two later. Lol it sounds a lil crazy but ull get the hang of it sooo quick. After all those changes happened to me, I like to be prepared lol. You know ur own body but I wanted to give u some charting tips. I had to research and research for all the stuff I learned and now I am more then happy to pass the knowledge along lol. Good luck!

Oh and ur right, even tho temping is for ttc, it helped me get my mind off ttc a lil bit (yea we do kinda sound crazy lol) and I concentrated more on my body and food that I ate and all sorts of stuff like that. Its like we obsess over our temps instead of actual ttc lol

 

[Jrepp]

Glad you got a new thermometer!!!!! And crazy that both you and Jess were feeling O pains yesterday! I forgot to temp this morning but it's all good. It's not like we have BD recently lol. Glad you got some fun in last night! DH has asthma and it was acting up really bad last night. He was still willing to do it but I didn't want him losing all of his breath!

We have a festival in our area today, so we are heading up there in a few hours. And then, DH brother is staying in a nearby motel, and we bought him a lot of groceries to try to tide him over. His brother went to jail for being a meth dealer, got out in October, and then went back in for a month for failure to pay some of his fines. He also got a girl pregnant 6 weeks after he got out and now they are expecting a little girl. Anyhow, DH wants to help him get back on his feet but he is broke. We paid $300 for a hotel and $150 in groceries. I feel like we spent too much but DH really wanted to help so I helped as well. Anyhow, we are going to take the groceries up there after the festival.

I bought some cute stuff at hobby lobby and Joann's fabrics last night. I'll post a pic later

FX for all of you ladies, have a wonderful Sunday!!

More proof that meth works wonders for fertility!! All joking aside, have fun at the festival today! It was very nice of you guys to help his brother out, and I sincerely hope he takes the help he was given.

Jrepp - thanks for keeping us updated on Amy. She's got me worried, poor girl.

Megan - jealous about 2 weeks in Mexico... *sigh*

Wishing - good karma is coming your way. You are good people!

lol, do you know something I don't know? I'll take 2 weeks in Mexico! But, I'm not going to Mexico, haha. I don't recall reading who is...

I didn't finish my last post... I was gonna say, I took my temp this morning and it's still in my pre-O temp range, plus I peed on an OPK and it's almost positive so I expect I'll O tonight or tomorrow. This way I'll at least know when to expect my period.

No problem. I have more news, and she told me to tell you guys hi and let you know what was going on.....so now I don't feel like a gossip.

Looks like we all o'd or are oing around the same time....took my temp for the first time in ages and it was 97.98. Definitely post o temps. Oh well. Period commencing in 23ish days.

 

[Jrepp]

I asked Amy if her and Mike were still together and what had happend at therapy. Here is here response:

"Thank you ❤ right now yes, hopefully it stays that way..it was good, but we went to dinner afterwards to keep going over our stuff and he had told done friends and he was saying he would have to choose them or me really..so I was pretty upset �� he was really sweet and said he would tell them both sides but at that point I thought I made up my mind in just killing myself �� he is getting his own therapist now, though...still at Swedish waiting for a bed to open..but better than the psych ward I'm sure �� ugh. Waiting for my pain meds and then going to try to sleep. ❤ love all of you girls please tell everyone hi for me."

I then gave her an update onto the going ons of all of you guys.

 

[mdscpa]

aidensmommy1 - hmmmmmm..... i'll try to keep that in mind. and probably tell that to DH that FF might change it's mind and move the O date, that way he'll think of BD'ing more in the next couple of days just to cover our bases, lol. But that's gonna exhaust him, i think

TTC and TWW give me stress, at least for now my thoughts are all about how long my LP is and keep me away wondering whether i'm gonna get or not... I'm just disappointed not trying to chart when we started TTC'ing......

 

[Jrepp]

Hi Froggy!!

 

[aidensmommy1]

aidensmommy1 - hmmmmmm..... i'll try to keep that in mind. and probably tell that to DH that FF might change it's mind and move the O date, that way he'll think of BD'ing more in the next couple of days just to cover our bases, lol. But that's gonna exhaust him, i think

TTC and TWW give me stress, at least for now my thoughts are all about how long my LP is and keep me away wondering whether i'm gonna get or not... I'm just disappointed not trying to chart when we started TTC'ing......

again, I feel the same way. I always wish I started charting sooner as well but u'll be ok. The tww is most definitely stressful when ur really really hoping for that bfp! That's for sure! It stresses me out like crazy some cycles but at this point I'm pretty calm just waiting for it to happen. My dh gets tired out because we usually bd for 4-6 days straight and then every other day before and after O for a few days to cover all the basis. We are NTNP at the moment so we figure this would be the perfect time to just enjoy each other and bd when we want so we aren't overwhelmed when we start really trying again. I'm just waiting for 3-4 months on enzymes and a repeat hsg and hopefullyyyy we can start trying...fx! Anyways, hopefully u won't even have to worry about ur LP and will get ur bfp instead . So far it looks to me like u prob have a healthy LP based on what u told me about ur usual cycle length and stuff. It'll prob be between 12-14 days long but can be a little longer or shorter...better if its longer rather than shorter tho. I was a huge worry bug my first cycle charting thinkin id find something wrong but I was excited at the same time lol. Is that sorta how ur feeling?

 

[aidensmommy1]

Jess, tell Amy I said hi and I love her!
That's sad about her and mike. At least they're still together for her sake atm but I just hope its the right thing for her. She means so much to all of us and so many others that I dont want to see her unhappy for her future, u know?
Also please tell her I will try and get a new FB going I will find her and say hi (there's lots of drama from my ex husband of whom I dont talk to on my old one..hes immature for a 26yr old so that's why I haven't used FB with any of u yet) I definitely want to make a new one for just u ladies and my family and close friends. I want to be able to show u ladies pics and FB is the only site I know how to upload them on from my phone :-\.
Thanks again Jessica!!

Lots of love to Amy!!

 

[mdscpa]

aidensmommy1 - hmmmmmm..... i'll try to keep that in mind. and probably tell that to DH that FF might change it's mind and move the O date, that way he'll think of BD'ing more in the next couple of days just to cover our bases, lol. But that's gonna exhaust him, i think

TTC and TWW give me stress, at least for now my thoughts are all about how long my LP is and keep me away wondering whether i'm gonna get or not... I'm just disappointed not trying to chart when we started TTC'ing......

again, I feel the same way. I always wish I started charting sooner as well but u'll be ok. The tww is most definitely stressful when ur really really hoping for that bfp! That's for sure! It stresses me out like crazy some cycles but at this point I'm pretty calm just waiting for it to happen. My dh gets tired out because we usually bd for 4-6 days straight and then every other day before and after O for a few days to cover all the basis. We are NTNP at the moment so we figure this would be the perfect time to just enjoy each other and bd when we want so we aren't overwhelmed when we start really trying again. I'm just waiting for 3-4 months on enzymes and a repeat hsg and hopefullyyyy we can start trying...fx! Anyways, hopefully u won't even have to worry about ur LP and will get ur bfp instead . So far it looks to me like u prob have a healthy LP based on what u told me about ur usual cycle length and stuff. It'll prob be between 12-14 days long but can be a little longer or shorter...better if its longer rather than shorter tho. I was a huge worry bug my first cycle charting thinkin id find something wrong but I was excited at the same time lol. Is that sorta how ur feeling?

U got it right. I have lots of "what ifs" feeling. Not knowing what my temps indicate. I know it's still early on this first cycle charting but seeing what i was supposed to see gives me relief, for now lol..... I guess while TTC, it gives more knowledge about reproductive system than when i was a student, lol...... BFPs will come i know it will.

By the way, on whim i decided to take opk this evening as expected its -. I just wanna see why i'm cramping on my right side and on the middle since this is the worst one compared to the previous days. Well, maybe it's because of the hormones in my body.... Or maybe due to straight BD for 5 days now. Thinking of doing it tonight again and maybe every other day after tom's temp.

Oh, while i feel so close to you ladies......

everyone