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[Sizzles]

Sizzles: whatever came out of your weird cycle? Good things I hope?

Here's an update from me.

Whilst ending in af, rather than a bfp, I'm slightly more positive about the relatively odd cycle I've just finished.

As far as I can remember, it all started fairly normally, but the different thing about this month was that I hadn't been able to detect ov, when in previous months I've always had some degree of pain. Any way, the spotting started at around when I would have expected it to based on a usual ov of cd13; it was only very slight (as usualy), but after a couple of days it stopped altogether for a day, then was very scant again for a couple of days. Unfortunately this did raise my hopes slightly as I thought had I been spotting and an egg had implanted, the spotting may have ceased and any scant spotting thereafter may just have been residual. Any way, all this week I've felt a little crampy, though mainly on my left. once again, post 0v cramping for me is normal, but I don't usually think it's on one side, but after a couple of days it evened out. Then yesterday at work it was more like usual af cramps and I felt I needed to go to the loo. Sure enough af arrived! So that was yesterday morning on cd27/ when I think I was 14dpo. So the positives are that I only spotted for a week: one day of which there was no spotting and the rest of the time was very scant - miles better than previously! Another positive, which was lucky, was that I did feel the need to take tablets for the af pain, but I stupidly had not brought my prescription painkillers so had some strongish over the counter tablets, but the fact that they did the job was good, as sometimes they just don't touch it.

In other news, yesterday our 'certificate for eligiblity for NHS funded IVF' arrived. I'd seen the NHS logo and had hoped it was the letter inviting us for the initial meeting, but still, at least we're moving in the right direction.

Sorry it's been me, me me today! I hope everyone else is ok.

 

[Titi]

Sizzles, sorry about AF. Have you ever tried any otc progesterone cream for the spotting? I've heard it makes a really big difference.

 

[Titi]

The idea of a guy getting his junk scanned sounds like poetic justice to me, they should give guys one with a wand up the bum too, just for equality. QUOTE]

Right????? I tell my dh all the time it is so unfair that in all our fertility tests/treatments his only contribution is something that he enjoys to do anyways!!!!

I too, seriously though hope everything goes okay for him Gdane and also bummed for you if you'll miss this cycle. My dh had a spermocele and a variocele (totally wrong spelling) years before I even met him and had to have ball surgery I guess he was out of work for like a month in the worst pain ever recovering so I suppose he gets a pass from any more trauma down there but it still is ridiculous what we go through with the fertility treatments, nine months of pregnancy AND labor and they just get to have a lovely orgasm!!!!

Speaking of orgasms, my dh had one last night, IN ME! Geez, he is one that likes pulling out, I guess he must think it's sexy to watch like he's in his own porn or something and on occasion has done it in the moment when we are ttc and I flip out. And now the one time, we are supposed to be preventing for the lap, and I told him specifically last night, what happens????????? Lap is on Friday and my "lady calendar" said that last night was the first day of my "fertile zone" with ov predicted Tuesday. Dh wasn't so worried as we've never gotten pregnant EVER in the 4 years we tried plus the 2 years before that we didn't prevent, but it still has me very anxious. ????

 

[Sizzles]

Sizzles, sorry about AF. Have you ever tried any otc progesterone cream for the spotting? I've heard it makes a really big difference.

Well I've maintained all along (only through research online and in books) that it's a progesterone thing. However, when I've put this to the professionals they've just said that my hormone blood tests have all been normal, and, up until now, they've said there's nothing particularly unusual about the spotting. I assume progesterone has to be prescribed? In which case, I don't think they'll give it to me; they seem dead set on going ahead with IVF rather than trying to ascertain what the problem may be. Very annoying!

 

[Titi]

Sizzles, sorry about AF. Have you ever tried any otc progesterone cream for the spotting? I've heard it makes a really big difference.

Well I've maintained all along (only through research online and in books) that it's a progesterone thing. However, when I've put this to the professionals they've just said that my hormone blood tests have all been normal, and, up until now, they've said there's nothing particularly unusual about the spotting. I assume progesterone has to be prescribed? In which case, I don't think they'll give it to me; they seem dead set on going ahead with IVF rather than trying to ascertain what the problem may be. Very annoying!

Here in the US, I don't know what it's like elsewhere, you can get natural progesterone cream at health stores and also online, like through Amazon. In the thread that here linked to a few weeks ago (the over 40 bfp one) a lot of the women in there were talking about progesterone creams and I even researched some of them on Amazon-it seems to make a big difference which one you buy-and you just rub a 1/2 teaspoon or so into your underarm or something a few times a day. Some of them said it completely stopped your spotting.

I am so frustrated how NONE of these doctors care to find or fix what's wrong anymore it's just, "well it doesn't matter IVF will take care of it!". This is why I'm finally getting a lap on YEAR FIVE!!! They used to do that straight away back in the day! Well, I'm sorry, it does make a difference when the cost is completely unafforable and maybe I don't want to go through all that for something that just happens for every other animal & human in the planet! hrmph!

 

[Sizzles]

I am so frustrated how NONE of these doctors care to find or fix what's wrong anymore it's just, "well it doesn't matter IVF will take care of it!". This is why I'm finally getting a lap on YEAR FIVE!!! They used to do that straight away back in the day! Well, I'm sorry, it does make a difference when the cost is completely unafforable and maybe I don't want to go through all that for something that just happens for every other animal & human in the planet! hrmph!

I'm with you there! Thanks for the info. I'll look into the progesterone, but I kind of feel like we're this close to IVF now, there probably isn't enough time to make a difference. I'm glad you said about rubbing it into your underarm though, as I can't say as I was too fussed about poking it up my wotsit!

 

[Titi]

hehe it seems like that IS where everything goes, huh?

 

[Sizzles]

I've looked at the progresterone cream, but everything I've read links it to the menopause, which is all a bit scary!!! Also, I am slightly put off by the fact that in the UK it's classed as an 'unregistered' medicine, or something like that, which you can get a prescription for, but only from some doctors, others steer well clear. I think I'll just leave it for now, but it's still niggling me that it could be the reason for the spotting and I'm annoyed that it won't be looked into any further.

 

[LekkerSlaap]

Here!!!! Where is the update!?

 

[Titi]

Lekker, there is a nice long one in her journal.

 

[Pookabear]

Sizzles I go throught spotting every month too with normal progesterone levels...dr.s say its fine but I don't think they are right....and they give me nothing for it, just wanted to let u know your not alone ....I haven't been typing much but im still lurking now and then lol jus5 still coping with my failed iui etc

 

[phrumkidost]

Sizzles, sorry about AF. Have you ever tried any otc progesterone cream for the spotting? I've heard it makes a really big difference.

Well I've maintained all along (only through research online and in books) that it's a progesterone thing. However, when I've put this to the professionals they've just said that my hormone blood tests have all been normal, and, up until now, they've said there's nothing particularly unusual about the spotting. I assume progesterone has to be prescribed? In which case, I don't think they'll give it to me; they seem dead set on going ahead with IVF rather than trying to ascertain what the problem may be. Very annoying!

Sizzles, I couldn't agree more! I even disagreed with my FS (she said my numbers were "normal" but I just knew I wasn't), I didn't follow her advice, and... it worked! That may be just dumb luck, but I heard about progesterone cream from another 35+ woman who swore by it and said it also helped four of her friends. You can't get it in Oz without a prescription, so I ordered this: https://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Nat...al-Skin-Cream-Calming-Lavender-3-oz-85-g/7922 and had it sent to me via DHL. If you do get it, make sure to alternate a different location every time (I use L inner thigh, R inner thigh, tummy, R inner arm, L inner arm, neck, repeat). And it generally should only be used Post-O. Anyway, if you decide to go that route, I would be happy to tell you more.

 

[phrumkidost]

Pooka, so sorry to hear about your IUI failure, hun.

I'm still catching up on the rest. Hope you're all well!

 

[TeddyBearPug]

hey ladies - I wanted to comment on the spotting as well. I had been a chronic spotter for years! I even spotted on clomid at the exact, normal time I would start without clomid (10dpo) even with good progesterone numbers. So then the dr gave me progesterone with the clomid with my insistence, I still spotted at 10dpo. So then as a last measure, he added estrogen with the clomid and progesterone to counteract a possible big drop in the hormones...started spotting at 11dpo! it was all very frustrating. I had another saline hysterogram as a last resort to see if there was something in the uterus to cause the spotting. There wasn't. So I was just a chronic spotter with no real reason behind it. It was very frustrating!!!!!! I also started spotting the month I got my bpf, exactly on 10dpo....so I just knew I was out! it was exactly the same, but then the spotting tapered off. So there is hope ladies that are spotting but it is frustrating!

I hope everyone is doing well!!! miss you guys

Pookabear-i'm sorry about your iui

 

[Titi]

I don't ever have any spotting at all...so IDK but coincidentally in an unmedicated cycle after ov my preogesterone is measured usually around 15 and I swore I was pregnant my first IUIS because on just 50mg of Clomid it went all the way over 100. Of course, this means absolutely nothing-I can't get pregnant anyway.

Also, now I am freaking out. Last night when I got up to pee I noticed I had sore bbs. This is almost always a sign that I've ov'd. But yesterday was only cd10!. It's not CRAZY that I could have-even though I almost always ov on cd13 or 14, my second IUI caught everyone by surprise b/c when I went in for my baseline on cd8 I had a follie about to burst ( I blamed that on stupid me taking maca though). this means it is even worse for dh's dtd inside me Friday night.

 

[uwa_amanda]

So how is everyone doing this evening? I'm doing okay today! This thread seems a little quiet today...

 

[LekkerSlaap]

I'm still waiting on AF. Just sitting around being a downer today. Not much to report.

 

[oneKnight]

Waiting on AF here too, due Thursday - which incidentally is the 1 year anniversary of the day I walked out on my ex.

Had a HUGE cyst burst yesterday. It was so big I could feel a sore lump near my right ovary for a few days prior - UGH!! Usually I have no idea they're there, even when they show up 2cm on the scan - so this must have been a whopper!

 

[scerena]

ladies just a flying visit! I can't reply individually to everyone on my phone right now sorry

Sorry I have been MIA had a hectic week- was my bday last sat I went out with ally friends and ohs friends we had a good night and I've finally just got over my hangover

I've posted a pic of me I was very drunk!

So please update me on what's going on with you all???

phrum CONGRATULATIONS on your pregnancy Hun

 

[Sizzles]

Had a HUGE cyst burst yesterday. It was so big I could feel a sore lump near my right ovary for a few days prior - UGH!! Usually I have no idea they're there, even when they show up 2cm on the scan - so this must have been a whopper!

OUCH!!! That doesn't sound very nice!

Sorry to those awaiting the imminent arrival of af.